7.3 Hopefully the end of talking to Wuk Lamat

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Originally Posted by DreadCrow

I will never understand the seething hatred people have for Wuk Lamat. Like, you'd think she was Cersei freaking Lannister, with the way people act but no... She's just sort of annoying but largely inoffensive.

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I hate the people who decided it was okay to have her have such a major role and Yoshi P for trying to gaslight everyone that she was great

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Originally Posted by Hallarem

I hate the people who decided it was okay to have her have such a major role and Yoshi P for trying to gaslight everyone that she was great

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I think it also the fault of us players. We over react about Wuk Lamat and her voice actor which cause a domino effect.

Never had an issue with her.

Sphene too thanks.

Sadly there are some who didn't like them. And there are some who just ave a kick of other reaction, so they throw oil into the flame. For now, i think we need to find a middle ground to be better. For the game and the community.

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Originally Posted by Pimsan20

I think it also the fault of us players. We over react about Wuk Lamat and her voice actor which cause a domino effect.

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Excuse me. What?

The players are 'at fault' for not liking her? What does that even mean? We 'overreacted'? Do you really want to suggest she was simply 'misunderstood'?
Oh, don't worry, the devs have tried this method to defend the terrible writing of her character for over a year now, instead of fixing the actual problems. They gave her less screentime in 7.2, sure, but they never once acknowledged player feedback, instead tried it with good old gaslighting or completly ignoring the matter.

Regarding the problems the VA has caused, this has been discussed to hell and back. It's literally like opening Pandoras Box and it's tiring to talk about this bad person again and again. If you don't know about the stuff she wrote back in the day, search the forum or on google. You'll surely find something, if the threads where it was discussed haven't all been deleted.

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Originally Posted by Aniise

Excuse me. What?

The players are 'at fault' for not liking her? What does that even mean? We 'overreacted'? Do you really want to suggest she was simply 'misunderstood'?
Oh, don't worry, the devs have tried this method to defend the terrible writing of her character for over a year now, instead of fixing the actual problems. They gave her less screentime in 7.2, sure, but they never once acknowledged player feedback, instead tried it with good old gaslighting or completly ignoring the matter.

Regarding the problems the VA has caused, this has been discussed to hell and back. It's literally like opening Pandoras Box and it's tiring to talk about this bad person again and again. If you don't know about the stuff she wrote back in the day, search the forum or on google. You'll surely find something, if the threads where it was discussed haven't all been deleted.

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I'm not saying that. I'm saying that everyone could have done better without using negative comments or the dusting the problem under the rug. And by everyone, i mean the dev and va too.

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Originally Posted by Pimsan20

If that is the cause, i see that both party are at fault of the hate. I mean let's be fair, this could have been avoided if people would look at this with cooler heads. Now we have this back and forth, since Dawntrail.

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You can't really get any cooler about it... Literally most people just hated the song because of where it was used, and not necessarily for the quality of it, e.g., you have the song in question playing during the moment where you're building an explosive train, like at that point just play King Moggle Mog theme when trying to fight Bahamut instead of Answers.

A spade is a spade... A suffocating character is a suffocating character... A VA with inconsistent quality is a VA with inconsistent quality... That is all there was to it.

Then you have the VA coming out and trying blanket accuse racism, whilst trying to retain some level of vague deniability by virtue of "I only said certain groups".

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Originally Posted by Kaurhz

You can't really get any cooler about it... Literally most people just hated the song because of where it was used, and not necessarily for the quality of it, e.g., you have the song in question playing during the moment where you're building an explosive train, like at that point just play King Moggle Mog theme when trying to fight Bahamut instead of Answers.

A spade is a spade... A suffocating character is a suffocating character... A VA with inconsistent quality is a VA with inconsistent quality... That is all there was to it.

Then you have the VA coming out and trying blanket accuse racism, whilst trying to retain some level of vague deniability by virtue of "I only said certain groups".

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Yea, i have to admit. Using the song at the train seems out of place. On that i have to agree. And how Wuk Lamat can be suffocating, is also understandable. And how the VA choice her words does have negative impact too.

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Originally Posted by DreadCrow

I will never understand the seething hatred people have for Wuk Lamat. Like, you'd think she was Cersei freaking Lannister, with the way people act but no... She's just sort of annoying but largely inoffensive.

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Cersei Lannister was well-acted, and did not randomly appear in Winterfell through an interdimensional rift to step in front of Jon Snow to prevent the rest of the cast from having any development.