Ultimate demise of 14?

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Originally Posted by JokoCGN

U can play only few hours a day

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1-2 hours a day is already enough to exhaust the content of this game in 15% of the patch cycle lmao

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Originally Posted by Magikazam

To me, it just sound FFXIV arriving at it ''WoD/Legion era'' if we compare it to WoW. It still doing good but people start pointing out issues, that if they ain't fixed and no change is made, will eventually hit the game hard. And SE don't really have the same stability Activision Blizzard had, money wise.

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Honestly I feel SE could always experiment with new mechanics/duties gosh even a new dungeon formula; I mean Arena Net did Living world and that worked for a time but they found that they could not produce new maps and content at a fast enough pace so they are trying FFXIV route now that did not 100% work for the previous expac so they are trying new things now.

They did not sacrifice story but they did for instance in the newest patch releasing next week at player housing and removed map meta events replacing it to the original world boss to test, I feel SE pushed the envelope already with the story here if they added more dungeon's or trials or even a new type of duty like solo duty or something it would have had a much more positive impact as usually new features are praised.

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Originally Posted by TheRealQuah

Depends how you define success.

DT sure was the most successful expansion based on concurrent player counts.

SE board will be telling the team to keep doing more of the same.

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Problem with that is also kind of rooted in the fact that overall player count is looked at f2p and sub.

there are people that did not purchase dawntrail and is probably still finishing EW; then there are also new players still doing the other expacs as they started recently due to someone making a hype about the game.

the true figures I believe will be seen in only like 2-3 months once the dust has settled and the players from EW influx is no longer visible; Dawntrail is with all due resepct the lowest ranked expac of all of them and that includes SB

Looking at the Metacritic User scores for all the Online Final Fantasy we have:
FFXI = 7.4; FFXIV: 1.0 - 4.0; ARR - 7.7; HW - 8.7; SB - 8.9; ShB - 9.1; EW - 8.7 and DT - 6.0

The fact that DT reviews worse than ARR and Final Fantasy 11 (that is 20 years old) is shocking and show to me this was not a successful expansion by a long shot and SE will probably look at that as well.

Feels more like Cataclysm, or that's the general vibe I get. It's not a colossal train wreck but it could be the start of a decline.

I sincerely hope not!

Sticking so close to the formula is beginning to wear me down a bit. Every expac, you get 6 zones to farm the exact same number of fates for the same number of gemstones to buy the same amount of crafting mats to make the same number of crafts (from the same layout of new master craft tomes), the same type of boss fates that will net you the same amount of special material that you’ll have to do twice for a mount and special outfit, the same type of hunt rewards and legendary nodes and two classes being released, two big cities with one having a MB and one with end expac turn ins, artifact gear and two new materia types…two new types of scrips and two new tomestones…three beast tribes— oh sorry, allied societies, the same number of totems needed for the same number of extreme mounts to collect for a ~special~ mount, an eventual housing district with the same number of plots…

I don’t love knowing exactly what will be in new content before it’s released. It makes it all feel pointless. I’ve done it several times, why keep going?

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Originally Posted by Lak14

ereuka *cough* bozja *cough*

but the casual whined too much and so we got the manderville instead.

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If we get the Field Mission by 7.15 (they're usually dropped in the .x.5 ones), then that means around 4 months of wait for 7.1 then around 2 more months for the 7.15... six months of waiting to get a feature that gives you things to do (that isn't High End) on the long term. That feels way too long of a wait for me.

Tackling old content shouldn't be a way to make up for that wait, really. At least that's not what I expect from a game that charges a monthly sub in such a big company.

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Originally Posted by Achereon

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User scores and posts on forums and social media mean nothing if the player data doesn't corroborate them.

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Originally Posted by AnnRam

I didn't have to buy/farm/craft or even spend a single Gil on my character in order to get to end game in DT.

EW tomes gear is enough to carry you to 90 ->100 content what kind of insult it's this? And you dare to call this an "expansion'"

My SGE with level 90 gear it's doing expert with tanks pulling wall-to-wall and I can manage the groups without even using all my cds

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All of the expert dungeons are handled wall to wall easily without a healer even being there. It would be better to just bring a tank and 3 DPS into expert roulette if the game let you. Having SMN or RDM for res would be optimal but not a requirement.

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Originally Posted by flipwizardmagoo

Sticking so close to the formula is beginning to wear me down a bit. Every expac, you get 6 zones to farm the exact same number of fates for the same number of gemstones to buy the same amount of crafting mats to make the same number of crafts (from the same layout of new master craft tomes), the same type of boss fates that will net you the same amount of special material that you’ll have to do twice for a mount and special outfit, the same type of hunt rewards and legendary nodes and two classes being released, two big cities with one having a MB and one with end expac turn ins, artifact gear and two new materia types…two new types of scrips and two new tomestones…three beast tribes— oh sorry, allied societies, the same number of totems needed for the same number of extreme mounts to collect for a ~special~ mount, an eventual housing district with the same number of plots…

I don’t love knowing exactly what will be in new content before it’s released. It makes it all feel pointless. I’ve done it several times, why keep going?

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The formula is part of the problem, I can sit down and plan out all the content for the next 9 years on a calendar and know when expansions, patches, etc all land. I can also guess with a high degree of reliability what the dungeons, trials, and raids will be like.

It’s sad when we know that a dungeon will be: 2 packs of trash, boss, two packs of trash, boss, two packs of trash, done. 15 min or less with humans or 20ish with trusts.

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Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth

Stop the doom posting. Game is fine, there's a minority of people on the forums who have been negative for the past 4 years or so.

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god i so hate postings like this. So this Person is telling you what exactly the problem is. You opinion may be diffrent thats fine. But for the love of god stop being like that, not every critique is doom posting. Posts like this make me so aggressive, that stand is the reason why nothing will ever change. Besides the minority is not correct. since DT the community is more then split because surprise DT was not a good expansion for a lot of people. So what shall they do, shut it and swallow it down ? Lets say you are in a restaurant and you order a vegan dish but you are getting meat will you accept it instead of well communicate what is wrong ? People been unsatisfied since Endwalker .X patches for a reason and not because they want to be doomposter. People want to communicate what is bad in their eyes, you are welcome to discuss it but if stop doomposting is your most productive comment, then consider to not post it since you are limited on how mch you can post in the forum anyway and a comment like this helps nobody.