Here's why I will not support this healer strike.

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Originally Posted by sindriiisgaming

Not really. There's a significant difference between. :you don't have enough experience:, and " all of your current achievements are meaningless" I would hope that much was already obvious

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"Hey, I've been playing since Stormblood and found SCH fun then, but I don't anymore"
"Just play Savage and you'll have fun again!"
"But I still want to have fun in dungeons like I used to"
"Well I'm still not going to listen to you because you don't play Savage"

Yeah, you may not intend it, but you still belittled them:

belittle /bĭ-lĭt′l/
transitive verb
To represent or speak of as unimportant or contemptible

If you're not going to listen to them because they don't play savage, you've made them unimportant to the conversation; belittled them.

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Originally Posted by Supersnow845

So I have to be a particular level of skilled in the healers that includes savage, communicate a certain way so as to not insult you and have points you deem to valid while you just spout random nonsense and expect everyone else to heed you

Genuinely I don’t know what I bother

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Its simply utterly pointless to engage in a debate with you.because nothing anybody could ever say would change your mind. And not only that but there are better places to do it.

What I will say is this. 7.0 healers are what they are. And until 8.0 is announced in 3 years we won't know anything about the new healers. So this strike now will and has achieve(d) nothing. Not only that. But some if the infighting has actually driven people away. This community is renound for it's non toxicity, so surely you can understand how polarising this is. Many of us having seen what we are seeing from your side just no longer want to engage

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Originally Posted by sindriiisgaming

The sad part is I genuinely believe this statement
But let's not put words in people's mouths. At no point did I personally call out you as a raider. You took a sweeping statement and applied it to entirely yourself. When obviously there will be abnormalities. What is embarrassing Is the responses and aggression. Its making me wonder what sense is there even behind this strike other than a desperate plea

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Oh hey, another case of "comes into thread with guns blazing, gets upset when people don't respond in the kindest, most gentlest of ways". If you can't take it, don't dish it. The only one embarrassing themselves here is you.

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Originally Posted by sindriiisgaming

I simply pointed out many of you lacked the real field experience nesscery to judge the jobs.

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Wasn't this you ?

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Originally Posted by sindriiisgaming

When we raid in pf... the pf is usually So toxic.. that we can't actually clear anything without being told in some colourful way to uninstall the game...

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Sounds like you're lacking in field experience yourself.


Anyway, back on topic - I'm not a striker myself but I don't disagree with the points that they have made in their thread.
A lot of the early posters in the thread are healing subforum regulars over the past few years, so it's not like their concerns have been purely pulled out of thin air, especially considering they have linked to two very large healer related threads that address where their concerns are rooted.

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Originally Posted by Sunhwapark

Wasn't this you ?


Sounds like you're lacking in field experience yourself.


Anyway, back on topic - I'm not a striker myself but I don't disagree with the points that they have made in their thread.
A lot of the early posters in the thread are healing subforum regulars over the past few years, so it's not like their concerns have been purely pulled out of thin air, especially considering they have linked to two very large healer related threads that address where their concerns are rooted.

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I'm not sure what your gunning for here? This was a complaint about raiding in "pf" you can see from my achievements I still have most non ultimate content cleared

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Originally Posted by sindriiisgaming

This community is renound for it's non toxicity

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Despite your efforts to use logs as gatekeeping.

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Originally Posted by Saraide

Despite your efforts to use logs as gatekeeping.

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Wheeeree did I mention fflogs?????

"I stand by my opinion that this strike was not created in good faith" - person regurgitating the same bad faith talking points spammed in the main thread.

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Originally Posted by Saraide

Despite your efforts to use logs as gatekeeping.

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Technically it was Lodestone achievements, but the effect is the same; elitism to dismiss criticisms rather than to actually defend their position. It'd be one thing to say "I find healers enjoyable so I won't be striking, I hope you guys find something fun instead", it's another to look through logs/achievements and say "you guys don't have the experience to talk, so I think you're just embarrassing".

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Originally Posted by sindriiisgaming

Wheeeree did I mention fflogs?????

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Ah excuse me, you're using achievements as gatekeeping tool. This changes everything. /s