Tired of contemt creators making clickbait videos about the game being dead

This is my favorite feature on youtube, at least until they get rid of it, too. It works wonders (until youtube starts throwing never-ending stream of reupload channels that orbit around every streamer at me)

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Im tired of this game being a popular topic of discussion in video platforms

As someone who sometimes makes dumb youtube videos about FFXIV, I literally never watch any youtube videos about FFXIV.
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mhm yep, I see what to do.

Learn a little about how the YouTube algorithms work and you are a lot less likely to get flooded with the "FFXIV is dying" content as suggested viewing.

In plainer words: stop watching the "FFXIV is dying" content. YouTube is watching what you watch, and makes suggestions to you based on that.

I rarely see the "FFXIV is dying" content as suggested because I don't watch them. I get suggestions for FFXIV music, lore, housing and MSQ instead because that's mostly what I watch when looking for FFXIV content.

Is the game dying? Doesn't matter. I'm still having fun and nothing lasts forever. I'll keep playing until I stop having fun.

Play for your enjoyment and don't worry about what others think.

I don't subscribe to any of them or see any of them in my recommendations ever, if it weren't for people making threads here I wouldn't know anything about FFXIV youtubers.

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Originally Posted by Swordsman

I don't know the source of this graph, but, wow that's an incredible drop in the continuing activity trend.

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Originally Posted by Reap00

It is a chart a content creator put together on stream one day when he was bored. People will believe anything they read regardless of the source.

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This.

They creator even said the last line (the mostly green one looking like a drop) was from incomplete data and had some kind of bug in the tally, so to ignore it since it wasn't correct.

...of course, then people started spreading it around and everyone using that last mark as the "proof" of how the game was dying. The mark before that is a drop, but brings us back in line with ShB levels. And also this:

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Originally Posted by NekoMataMata

Also, side note but this is from that data as well:
"Although the recent decline is worrisome, if you look at the overall number, you can see that the active character population is basically increasing, albeit in waves."

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The reality is this:

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Originally Posted by Striker44

Well, MMO's by their very nature are better described as "cyclical" perhaps rather than "stable," but stable's still a reasonable word to use describing how EW has been following the same regular cyclical numbers it's had throughout its existence (which in turn continue to grow steadily from expansion to expansion).

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And this:

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Originally Posted by Gralna

It happen's each expansion cycle, at end of ARR, HW, SB, and now EW the forums, youtube, and discussion subreddit were filled with doomers trying to one up each other about how dead the game was and how bleak the future was. Then the next expansion comes out and we get more people than previous expansions launch. It's common across all MMOs, population yo-yos with content cycles, with biggest drop being leadup to the next expansion. The main indicator being if during each expansion's life cycle, if compared to the same point of previous expansions, if the population, and engagement are higher or lower. So far EW has shown to be retaining most of it's growth compared to previous expansions, with only expansion beating it being Shadowbringers, due to the WoW exodus, but that shouldn't be considered the norm for any expansion, since we can't always count on our biggest competition doing so poorly it drives over a significant amount of it's players to us.

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Indeed, we already saw it: After the second Fanfest, suddenly all the content creators were praising EW and excited about FFXIV again. And then we got all the content creators that HAD been staying silent calling out all the doomsayers.

This is all sadly typical, but...yeah, it's typical.

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Originally Posted by Jojoya

Learn a little about how the YouTube algorithms work and you are a lot less likely to get flooded with the "FFXIV is dying" content as suggested viewing.

In plainer words: stop watching the "FFXIV is dying" content. YouTube is watching what you watch, and makes suggestions to you based on that.

I rarely see the "FFXIV is dying" content as suggested because I don't watch them. I get suggestions for FFXIV music, lore, housing and MSQ instead because that's mostly what I watch when looking for FFXIV content.

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Exactly. For example I do discuss politic online from time to time, but I never-never-ever click on any youtube link even remotely relate to politic. As a result, my youtube are always political free despite I'm using fairly frequently for years. It's a place for my happiness, which include music, games, nerds and weebs stuffs. Yet I always hear other people talk about how deep a rabithole youtube can be once it detects that you like "political" topic. (And I have seen horror story of that effect on mainstream news).

But yeah, I think most people who complain about "there is so many X things" need to realize they are part of their own problem. They keep seeing those contents precisely because they keep watching them.

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Originally Posted by Reap00

It is a chart a content creator put together on stream one day when he was bored. People will believe anything they read regardless of the source.

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Yeah that chart told me absolutely nothing of value; versus the knowledge i can obtain organically playing the game day-in and day-out. What i do know for sure is that during covid this game was the most popular mmorpg on the planet (or it seemed like it was) xD

For me personally there has always been a number of users my eyes have kind of gotten used to other the years since ARR days, and thats been my friends/FC member list. If i meet folk outside of what i am used to, sure i'm okay with that, but collectively my FFXIV experience is a bit more tight-nit and focused. Frick'n charts be damned. o__o

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Originally Posted by Neoyoshi

Yeah that chart told me absolutely nothing of value; versus the knowledge i can obtain organically playing the game day-in and day-out. What i do know for sure is that during covid this game was the most popular mmorpg on the planet (or it seemed like it was) xD

For me personally there has always been a number of users my eyes have kind of gotten used to other the years since ARR days, and thats been my friends/FC member list. If i meet folk outside of what i am used to, sure i'm okay with that, but collectively my FFXIV experience is a bit more tight-nit and focused. Frick'n charts be damned. o__o

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Yeah plus if anything the game could use less players. Around Expac drops I'm waitin' like an hour just to get into the dang game. Plus you can't even make new characters on half the servers lol