January 2024, then what? October 2024? 10 months?

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Originally Posted by Vrankyl

Talk about hyperbole. The probability of it being October 2024 is miniscule since the current launch window is Summer which uh... guess what, that ends in September. Now of course something could happen and cause them to delay, but considering the fall out from EW's delay I doubt they will go that route unless absolutely necessary.

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Oh yes miniscule, which is why everyone predicted EW to launch in October and it ended up in December.

I find it hilarious that WoW got sh!t for their last patch cycle in Mist of Pandaria (14 Monts) Warlords of Draenor, Legion (Rightfully so) and yet FFXIV folks are fine with a 6 month + wait between last patch and the next expansion.

https://i.imgur.com/jxhcMyk.png

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Originally Posted by Deceptus

I find it hilarious that WoW got sh!t for their last patch cycle in Mist of Pandaria (14 Monts) Warlords of Draenor, Legion (Rightfully so) and yet FFXIV folks are fine with a 6 month + wait between last patch and the next expansion.

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Coming from WoW myself, I'm happy with the wait times we have here. There, just nowadays with Dragonflight they kind of matched XIV's pace with a content patch/sub-patch roughly every 2 months. Still, from Shadowlands' last content patch to Dragonflight launch it was almost one year of wait iirc, a lot longer than the estimated time for a Summer Dawntrail release.

I think in WoW there's the benefit of a PTR (or Beta during pre-xpac wait times) up almost all the time with stuff to datamine/speculate, class changes to theorycraft/complain/praise, etc, although you have to be super careful not to spoil story elements. In XIV we basically just have what's given in interviews, PLL or Fanfests.

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Originally Posted by Stormpeaks

I love the argument of "X game did it worse" as if that makes it any better, always funny

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Say what you will, but thing is, you sound like someone who's complaining you can't have prime beef steak while having a choice steak... and ignoring you're still having steak when you could be having a beef flavored lump instead.

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Originally Posted by Noumenon

This is funny. Fall became December for EW.

They're going to delay all the way until the end, and then take an extra month anyways.

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Is this going to be like the thread with that person who thought all of December is winter all over again?

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Originally Posted by MikkoAkure

Is this going to be like the thread with that person who thought all of December is winter all over again?

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Its all the same person.

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Originally Posted by Theodric

Wrath of the Lich King: 13 November 2008

Legion: 29 August 2016

Those are the release dates for the launch of both expansions, one of which predates FFXIV's existence altogether and the other is roughly seven years ago. We're talking about FFXIV in the present day and recent years, with both Shadowbringers and Endwalker leading to many veteran players who are caught up on the MSQ's and side content finding themselves with very little to do.

Many posters with concerns relating to the current game already are taking breaks and playing other games. All of this has been explained many times already by the posters such statements are aimed at, though.

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What makes you think the logistics problems that companies face in development have changed in any significant ways since then considering human beings are involved in just about every step of the development process?

Sometimes crap happens. One team getting delayed in progress due to sickness in some of the team members can mean other teams who are dependent on the first team's work fall behind. Severe weather can cause delays due to traffic problems, intermittent power outages, etc.

Unlike American companies that frequently force their employees to priortize work over their families or own health, it doesn't sound like YoshiP is doing that to his team. We're hitting a major holiday period right about the time that 6.55 would normally be coming out. Instead of pushing them to hit a tight deadline before the holidays start, he's giving them a bit of extra time so they can enjoy their holidays.

Good for him.

I've come to the conclusion that the endless debates that cause conflict within MMORPG player communities really have little to do with casual versus hardcore.

The real conflict is between high maintenance players that are very demanding and low maintenance players that are relaxed and willing to compromise as long as they're still having a good time. That's not to say that either one is a bad thing (as long as neither takes things to extremes) but the two sides will have a very hard time seeing eye to eye.

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Originally Posted by DiaDeem

Doubt it'll be October. Summer starts in June, which is still a while.

I'm not panicking, but I did rise an eyebrow...

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I think the goal is to get the game back on the late June/early July expansion release schedule.

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Originally Posted by seolhyun

what do u mean? the last savage tier came out may 2023 and the xpac is not until june/july 2024.

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There's a lot more than just Savage raiding in the game.

If all you're going to focus on is Savage, then you're bound to end up running out of things to do quickly. Or are you trying to convince us that the last 4 bosses of Eden kept you busy every week from December 7, 2020 to December 2, 2021?

Is the wait going to be 1-2 months longer this time? It looks that way.

Is complaining about waiting longer going to change anything? No, it's not.

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Originally Posted by Avoidy

They said summer, so one would expect August at the latest. Since Square usually does push these as late as they can go, I'd just assume the last week of August. But given the bizarre hesitancy when he said it originally, I wouldn't be surprised if we weren't waiting until September. Well, I say we. But I don't mean me.
One must wonder what fate will befall this game during the interim. If everyone leaves to play other games, will there be anyone left in this game to play with? It's doubtful. But it is what it is. In either case, I'm glad we've been able to establish that a 7-9 month wait time of 0 content in a subscription game is fine because somebody somewhere has had it worse in another game entirely.

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There could be a few things affecting the final release date.

Xbox beta. Increased server congestion due to an influx of Xbox players (if they come) that they need to have a working solution ready to address. The upcoming cloud server testing to see if it would work as a solution. Any number of other things that could be happening behind the scenes at SE that we don't know about but he does thanks to his position on the Board of Directors that they won't let him vacate.

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Originally Posted by Noumenon

This is funny. Fall became December for EW.

They're going to delay all the way until the end, and then take an extra month anyways.

Hence October. September is the end of Summer, and they'll end up delaying for a month to "polish the MSQ" or some such nonsense.

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What are you going to do about it if that happens? Continue to pay SE your subscription fees so you can keep making pointless posts in the forums about the delays? They won't speed anything up. The game will be ready when it's ready.

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Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso

I am curious WTF happens that leads into us going to The New World.

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We get a letter from Princess Peach with a treasure map inviting us to explore a new island.

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Originally Posted by Niroken

We get a letter from Princess Peach with a treasure map inviting us to explore a new island.

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So my curiosity thats not getting picked up on is: Do we kill Zeromous before we go?
Or does he get away and so we sidetrack in the meantime and he becomes the next 10 year build up.

im truly lost here...what is this cb3 y'all talking about?