Crystalline Conflict Party (with Friends) Request:

I love it that these premaders are jumping down our throats because we dont want them stomping on solo queuers in CC. Absolutely pathetic, the lot of you. "It's all about me me me!" mindset is exactly why the PvP devs don't listen to any of your feedback.

I already stomp on solo queuers in CC. I don't need premades or duos for that. Do I have to also always only play jobs I have no clue about to level the playing field while we're at it? We could petition SE to bar me from queuing with the jobs I have too many games with?

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Originally Posted by Tehmon

I doubt anyone opposing duos or groups enjoys playing CC to begin with. They just don't want their already miserable experience of having to do CC to obtain certain rewards to potentially suck even more. Because even if you don't care about CC, losing still sucks.

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So let me get this straight again, those people play the game not because they like it (they actually find it miserable), but they still do it just for the rewards? And they have the gal to complain about people that actually like the mode want? I'm not telling SE to delete deep dungeon solo rewards just because I find it absolutely miserable. I just don't play it.

(you can replace with savage mounts or whatever floats your boat, I just happen to like and do savage so I cant take it as a personal example here)

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Originally Posted by Archeron

I love it that these premaders are jumping down our throats because we dont want them stomping on solo queuers in CC. Absolutely pathetic, the lot of you. "It's all about me me me!" mindset is exactly why the PvP devs don't listen to any of your feedback.

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...if you need a scapegoat to not turn this into an "us VS them" scenario please actually just use me as a token head. There is absolutely no need to lump people who'd simply enjoy the option with me who verbally and actively pushes for this addition.

That said, your entire post could be completely inverted by replacing "premaders" with "soloqueuers" and just flipping the reason with "they dont want their sterile and ritualistic baalnce to be disturbed". This argument structure goes both ways.

The difference here is that one group clamours for an addition and providing reasoning to why this addition is beneficial for more than balancing games such as fostering a greater player retention, which would happen through players returning who missed this feature since as I said before, 2-man in casual was a standard feature.

And the other group insists that things need to stay the way they are, denying changes and additions suggested by other players in an attempt to preserve a theoretical balance that would be "doomed and ruined" if that change were come to pass and completely closing off the idea to give new options a shot. Basically just hypothesis + conservatism.

I do not know about you, but I vibe more with things changing up rather than staying the same

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Originally Posted by Archeron

I love it that these premaders are jumping down our throats because we dont want them stomping on solo queuers in CC. Absolutely pathetic, the lot of you. "It's all about me me me!" mindset is exactly why the PvP devs don't listen to any of your feedback.

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With a mindset like that you'll never enjoy PvP for what it is or what it could be.

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Originally Posted by Archeron

I love it that these premaders are jumping down our throats because we dont want them stomping on solo queuers in CC. Absolutely pathetic, the lot of you. "It's all about me me me!" mindset is exactly why the PvP devs don't listen to any of your feedback.

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I'm stomping on people in casual queue anyways, so what difference does it make that I have a friend in my group that doesn't normally pvp? Or did you forget already that casual doesn't have matchmaking so there are crystal tier players in the matches along with people who don't even know how to keybind making matches extremely easy for crystal tier players.

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Originally Posted by Ransu

I'm stomping on people in casual queue anyways, so what difference does it make that I have a friend in my group that doesn't normally pvp? Or did you forget already that casual doesn't have matchmaking so there are crystal tier players in the matches along with people who don't even know how to keybind making matches extremely easy for crystal tier players.

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I think what some might forget that having lesser skilled players team up will give them a better chance against high profile solo queuers.

Food for thought.

I think that's the biggest point being overlooked; there is no reason at all that they can't just make a Crystal Conflict (Multi) queue mode separate of the two that are here already. IF the argument is the other modes won't have enough people doing them; I think that more speaks to them not being as good to begin with or as good as this would be.

I have friends that, some are just not confident to get into a match--what if I suck, what if I'm not very good? If they have a friend to show em the ropes and play together, most of them, I know would begin to love it. I speak from experience having gotten friends into 2v2 and 3v3 arena back in WoW times; same thing, they NEVER would have tried alone; they just needed that push; it's one of their favorite things (most of them), now. MANY games have modes like what's being described; SE should REALLY try it. That simple, try the damn thing SE!!!

What's the worst possible thing you do... ... ... ... undo it?

For reference this is an example of just undoing something (they do it all the time):
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Monk Pressure Point
FINAL FANTASY XIV Patch 6.11
Action Adjustment
Enlightenment Additional damage from the Pressure Point effect has been increased from 8,000 to 12,000.


FINAL FANTASY XIV Patch 6.4
Action Adjustment
Enlightenment Potency of Pressure Point effect's additional damage has been reduced from 12,000 to 8,000.

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tl;dr Crystal Conflict should have a Multi-Queue mode for groups of friends to play with groups of friends.

I could care less if there is ANY reward or not; playing it with my friends is literally better than any mount, emote, or glamour you can come up with. Please just do it, and undo it (reference above) if we're wrong, though to be completely honest i sincerely doubt any of us that are pushing for it are.

Thanks.

We don't need another queue. Just let people duo or trio.

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Originally Posted by Ransu

We don't need another queue. Just let people duo or trio.

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You'll get no argument from me; either would be amazing!

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Originally Posted by Ransu

I'm stomping on people in casual queue anyways, so what difference does it make that I have a friend in my group that doesn't normally pvp? Or did you forget already that casual doesn't have matchmaking so there are crystal tier players in the matches along with people who don't even know how to keybind making matches extremely easy for crystal tier players.

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"I grind crystal, but I'm not stomping on people in casual queue" lmao.