Mentor Roulette needs a serious overhaul

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Originally Posted by Zsolen

They signed up for it.

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So did everyone else. And yet that's not it works anything else. Just special pleading without reason.

Get rid of the Carrot on the stick.

BAM, mentor's cleans up the trash.

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Originally Posted by Bsrking5

So did everyone else. And yet that's not it works anything else. Just special pleading without reason.

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The roulette is an extension of the mentor system. Stop playing dumb.

Don't want to help? Don't do mentor roulette.

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Originally Posted by Zsolen

The roulette is an extension of the mentor system. Stop playing dumb.

Don't want to help? Don't do mentor roulette.

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And roulettes is an extension of duty finder, don't want to do the duty, don't use duty finder. 24 hr bans on anyone who quits first. *Can't see that going wrong*(sarcasm)

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Originally Posted by Bsrking5

And roulettes is an extension of duty finder, don't want to do the duty, don't use duty finder. 24 hr bans on anyone who quits first. *Can't see that going wrong*(sarcasm)

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Instead of giving more attitude (yet again), realize that being a mentor is an additional requirement for mentor roulette. In no other roulette are you intentionally paired with people going through duties for the first time on purpose. Of course you know this, but you keep ignoring key details that separate it from other roulettes. Allowing mentors to cheat the roulette defeats the whole purpose of it. I gave you the answer you didn't even deserve. You don't have to like it, but you got it. Stop being disingenuous. It's not a good look.

Also pvp has its own special penalties, when it comes to queues. This would not be anything new.

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Originally Posted by Zsolen

Instead of giving more attitude (yet again), realize that being a mentor is an additional requirement for mentor roulette. In no other roulette are you intentionally paired with people going through duties for the first time on purpose. Of course you know this, but you keep ignoring key details that separate it from other roulettes. Allowing mentors to cheat the roulette defeats the whole purpose of it. I gave you the answer you didn't even deserve. You don't have to like it, but you got it. Stop being disingenuous. It's not a good look.

Also pvp has its own special penalties, when it comes to queues. This would not be anything new.

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That's just the thing, mentor roulette doesn't do that. Mentor roulette isn't a skip to front of the line for first timers.

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Originally Posted by Bsrking5

That's just the thing, mentor roulette doesn't do that. Mentor roulette isn't a skip to front of the line for first timers.

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It pairs mentors with sprouts. I didn't mention anything about it being a skip to the front of the line for sprouts.

People that actually have run the roulettes say that you will more often than not end up with new players/ sprouts.

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Originally Posted by Bsrking5

Depends on how bad and how many. 6 toddlers who's combined APM is 4. Yea, never gonna clear. Only the ARR are easy enough sprouts to stumble past barely. Bad sprouts, naw. You might as well take that 30.

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I guess I'm saying you just don't get bad sprouts that often. Not bad enough that you won't clear, at least.

I've been a mentor for years and don't have Mentor Roulette unlocked cause I have all these "????" on the duty list but no clue what it is or where/how to unlock it. I tried to finish the list and after still having like 10 of these optional things that I don't even know they exist...I just gave up looking for them. Could I get these done? Absolutely. It's just not worth the effort.

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Originally Posted by LittleImp

I hope they add savage to mentor roulette to give whiners even more reason to stop running it and ruining the experience for new players.

It's not even hard to clear EX primals in Mentor roulette, with a handful of exceptions like Ramuh EX or Sephirot. Outside of those few, most EX primals are a quick and easy clear that frequently take less time than a dungeon. A lot of them are even prone to being killed in a single attempt due to power creep.

If a mentor is repeatedly failing to clear EX's in Mentor roulette, they should examine themselves as the common factor.

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If they ever added savage they better also put the coils in there. I've actually done the bulk of them synced by helping sprouts do them in PF. I'd take doing synced old savage content and the coils over another boring guildhests or ARR EX in my mentor roulette. I mean, there's no way people would ever get through Hello World or Grand Cross Delta or Gavel or Light Rampant, but it'd be funny to watch the absolute chaos unfold. I already have the mentor mount so I would welcome the extra spicy mentor roulette to make it interesting again. I don't even get the fun EX trials like Shinryu or Thordan or Hades when I queue on DPS, it's all just boring Garuda and Shiva or guildhests.