Removed from Ex4 by Japanese group. Racist.

would it be better if they said 'stupid human'? they gonna use something he is. and foreigner is propably the first thing standing out

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Originally Posted by DixieBellOCE

Going to rewrite this since people seem to this this is just a simple 'attack the japanese' post.

I was doing EX4 in 'DUTY FINDER', something that we do on JP servers when the content is pretty new, and everyone just learns the fight.

After 2-3 wipes leading into transition, i was removed from the group and didn't understand why until i went and translated some of the chat to english, where i was refered to as a "Stupid Foreigner' and told to 'go home'.

This is the first time in about a year i have seen people acting like this, the last time was 6.0 release in EX1/2 duty finder.

Just being clear, this is NOT attacking the JP playerbase, it's just sad to see that some of them still harbor bad feeling towards international players when some of us have played on the servers since 2013.

Any attitude like this is unacceptable from anyone in the game, Duty Finder will put you into groups with ANYONE. Please use party finder and make 'XX Only' groups or remove "E" from your matching settings if you do not want to participate in international parties.

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I'd recommend you move to OCE or NA servers. Don't expect complaining in an English forum will change how JP playerbase behaves.

I would really like to know what the "go home" comment actually was because I have never heard this said in a JP party, no matter how annoying a person might have been, and a DF party of JP players isn't a hive mind. One person (allegedly) saying something that you translated in an offensive way doesn't automatically persuade everyone else to side with them and kick you.

It is entirely possible that it is a mistranslation or misunderstanding, and they were probably simply telling the uncommunicative bot player (how you would have appeared in their eyes) to "leave" (the party). If someone said "go back to your country" (in JP) it would be clearly offensive but I honestly can't imagine why anybody would say that in-game. You're probably already in your own country. And your own home. It doesn't make sense as an insult here, across the language gap.

Perhaps some screenshots - with names blurred out - would clear it up before this thread devolves into everyone getting indignant over something that probably never even happened?

I've had a similar experience to OP with germans but I wouldn't call germans racists lol
Asshole being assholes is what it is.

The irony they didn't think most people understand german.
This was in 2014-2015 and can't say I encountered anything similar in recent years.

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Originally Posted by Asari5

would it be better if they said 'stupid human'? they gonna use something he is. and foreigner is propably the first thing standing out

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Unironically yes because it shifts the focus from someone else being a foreigner to doing something dumb. You can do something about being dumb, making mistakes or whatever you want to call it. You cant do anything about where you were born. If you want to call out someone, atleast have the decency to call them out over something that is within their control.

It's not about where the player was born. The other players cannot possibly know that. In JP in-game conversations people don't say "Serilda is doing something annoying", they say "that Elezen/WHM/person using the EN client in the party list" - whatever singles me out so that everyone can quickly identify the troublemaker, and the last of those is most expediently explained by using "foreigner". In this case the player wasn't communicating properly with the group, so singling them out by their language options made sense. Is it ideal? No, not really, but the spiral of disrespect began when a non-JP speaker used DF as a learning party and refused to read anything in the chat log while wasting seven other players' time. Getting angry over people getting angry is masking the actual problem here. JP players are people and their cultural expectations should be respected; it's not ok to treat them like NPCs and then rage out on the forums when one of them gets annoyed about it.

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Originally Posted by Serilda

It's not about where the player was born. The other players cannot possibly know that. In JP in-game conversations people don't say "Serilda is doing something annoying", they say "that Elezen/WHM/person using the EN client in the party list" - whatever singles me out so that everyone can quickly identify the troublemaker, and the last of those is most expediently explained by using "foreigner". In this case the player wasn't communicating properly with the group, so singling them out by their language options made sense. Is it ideal? No, not really, but the spiral of disrespect began when a non-JP speaker used DF as a learning party and refused to read anything in the chat log while wasting seven other players' time. Getting angry over people getting angry is masking the actual problem here. JP players are people and their cultural expectations should be respected; it's not ok to treat them like NPCs and then rage out on the forums when one of them gets annoyed about it.

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I will keep this in mind whenever I see someone not speak english in a DF group in EU. Oh wait, we're not only english speakers here, just like JP datacenters arent only for people who speak japanese. Xenophobic expectations are not worthy of respect.

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Originally Posted by DixieBellOCE

if being called a stupid foreigner and told to 'go home' isn't racism then what is it?

Defend it all you want, there are just bad eggs in every society.

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Since this upset you quite a bit, you took a screenshot right?

I have played with Japanese players of FF11 since 2002, and then here in 2010, and Tonberry 2013 to now, and have to say that just seems a bit overboard, how did you translate what was said?

Need to see both sides of the Story, what was actually said before judgement can be made.

Post the chat log with names redacted.

Lots of weebs here defending bad behaviour. Nothing ever changes :p

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Originally Posted by grinkdaboy

you can dress it up however you'd like but bigotry is still bigotry lol

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I'm not dressing anything up, it's the reality. Let's not act like they're the only country in the world that assumes the worst of another. The United States are guilty of it as well, or are we just going to forget that some here were attacking people on the street just for being Asian/associating them with being the cause of Covid not too long ago? (Might still be but I avoid watching the news on a regular basis cause it makes me stressed out)

Can't really blame em for having a bad view on westerners at that rate/not wanting to be associated with us. Also gotta remember they got Trump related news for a while and none of that helped us anywhere in the world ngl.