Worst housing system in the world

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Originally Posted by Besame

IMO Wild Star is the go 2 that all game designers should look to. It was so awesome and very much missed.

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So good it died after like 3 years...

watch out for the next update saying " we apologize for the inconvenience as usual only 1 out of every 10,000 players will be able to get a plot even though everyone pays to get full access to the game we thank you for the patience as we continue to do nothing about housing "

Worst housing system in the world is instances housing and you know it... so deal with it.

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Originally Posted by Ransu

So good it died after like 3 years...

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The dungeons and quest system being focused for ther elitist, hard core gamers is what eventually killed WS. Housing had nothing to do with it. Housing was supurb.

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Originally Posted by Oizen

The people who say that don't realize the inside of their house is instanced.

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I have no idea if it is or isnt I can just see that the need for people being content with housing will not be served by adding 5000 more small houses for sale. There just needs to be a fixed place to create medium and large houses, and the only way for that to be viable is instanced housing to me. Everything else sounds a considerable time investment SE would absolutely never do. Theyll invest in the squadron rooms, and this island thing that wont be that, but not a total upheaval of the housing system. Just stupid changes ontop of it, like the lottery and 2/3rds fc wards.

It's not just housing that's wrong with this game.

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Originally Posted by Themarvin

instanced housing makes it hard to have visitors...

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No, it doesn't. Apartment building are a good example. You walk up to the location portal and pick which one you want to enter. Neat and simple.

Or see RIFT's system.
https://i.imgur.com/id7HD38.jpg

That should be fairly self explanatory about what you're seeing but just in case:

Mine - will display all the housing owned by the character you're currently playing (yes, your character can have multiple housing locations)
Alts - will display all the housing owned by your other characters on that same account and world (yes, your alts can also have multiple housing locations)
Friends - will display all the housing owned by players on your friends list that have allowed friends to access their housing locations
Guild - will display any housing owned by the guild your character belongs to
Guildmates - will display any housing owned by guildmates that have allowed access to other guild members
Public (weekly) - displays a list of all housing on that world that allows public access and lists the locations in order of the number of likes the location received that week. You can always search for housing by player name, Dimension name, or player's name for the location
Public (All time) - displays the same as Public (weekly) except the order is based on All Time likes instead of just the most recent week

I'll be honest. I'm not certain how the Cross Shard (world) listings work since that was a feature added after I stopped playing but I imagine it's similar to the above.

To the right is where you see all the housing listed. The scroll button shows there's a considerable number available to tour (size of button is inverse of list size). Want to visit one? Click the Enter button. That easy. That top listing was for a Dimension where not only can any player enter, permissions have been set so they can place and remove furnishings as well. That allows players to place items they're no longer using and pick up items they do need that others no longer wanted.

Players get to chose who can enter their housing all the way down to create whitelists/blacklists for each location. Hate those naked ERPers hanging out in your house that you keep open so friends can visit? Wouldn't be a problem in RIFT. You disable access to your housing to anyone not on your friends list. Because it's instanced, it can be done.

So much fear of instanced housing by players that have never experienced a good housing system.

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Originally Posted by Ransu

So good it died after like 3 years...

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The housing was good. The rest of the game had problems. That's why Wildstar died. Housing alone is not going to save a MMO.

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Originally Posted by Themarvin

Worst housing system in the world is instances housing and you know it... so deal with it.

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Except it's not.

You want to know the worst housing I ever experienced? LotRO. It's that other game people don't want to mention that has the expanding ward system they highly praise and want SE to adopt.

Their housing sucked. Just flat out sucked. You could only place items on "hooks" - pre designated spaces in the housing. The hooks had categories that would limit the type of items that could be placed there. Have a Medium Furnishing hook available? Can't place a Large Furnishing there. Wanted to place a bed by a window? No can do - it can only be placed on the opposite wall. Oh, here's your 6 outdoor item and 45 interior item limit for your personal house. Fellowship Halls had more generous limits but still smaller than what we have in this game and still restricted by the hooks.

What was I able to create with my instanced housing in RIFT? I was able to take this base Dimension

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7A_TRjK8neM

and create this:

https://i.imgur.com/f8zFC8b.jpg

(the waterfall is above the water area in the video)

RIFT's problem is the same one that Wildstar had. The housing was great - the rest of the game has problems and housing alone is not enough.

No, instanced housing is not the worst. It is the best when it is done right. That's something that you need to learn to deal with.

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Originally Posted by Besame

The dungeons and quest system being focused for ther elitist, hard core gamers is what eventually killed WS. Housing had nothing to do with it. Housing was supurb.

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Weird, I have seen so many MMOs die to focusing on the demands of a tiny group of elitist players who want the right to show off, I wonder why. Is it possible it's better to focus on the larger part of the population?

Can't possibly be... (/s if not obvious)

Squenix, please just fix housing. If not solely for the majority players that are left out of the system, then at least so that I can see your next expansion. Or is this game now "done" for you guys?

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Originally Posted by SilverSp

watch out for the next update saying " we apologize for the inconvenience as usual only 1 out of every 10,000 players will be able to get a plot even though everyone pays to get full access to the game we thank you for the patience as we continue to do nothing about housing "

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They refuse to acknowledge this and looking at history, they probably never will. Again, for an MMO that does EVERYTHING ELSE so well, it is something I will never understand why.

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Originally Posted by tsuchii

They refuse to acknowledge this and looking at history, they probably never will. Again, for an MMO that does EVERYTHING ELSE so well, it is something I will never understand why.

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thats the issue everything about ffxiv is amazing except the housing, gameplay ? amazing everything in the game is literally perfect and i love it minus housing and customer service. Wait till you call their phone number.