Bring Back Kaiten

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Originally Posted by xAFROx

No translators? Dang, I guess that's too much for an indie company like square Enix.

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Yah, no kidding right?

That said, that's why I am a little hesitant to trust that information... As I stated, don't really have a source.

But if its true, its a bummer for what is essentially one of the current most successful mmos...

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Originally Posted by CelestiCer

The fantasy of Samurai requiring to charge/prep large hitting attacks. Breathing in energy, fully focused and exhaling for the moment of impact. Remember the Samurai of the Stormblood Trailer? Often I read SAM as the " Melee version of BLM ", a Melee Caster.

This was taken from us, to fix a problem that didn't exist. What did they fix by doing this? Nothing. Or Nothing that matters from my PoV. Foreseeable changes in the Future, isn't now. How about not have changed how SAM was, until the changes were ready? What next asinine excuse am I supposed to accept?

Could also do the easy thing...

• No one complained about SAM pre6.1
• No one was unhappy with SAM pre6.1
• In fact I can't point out flaws of SAM pre6.1
• SAM was better pre6.1 vs post6.1

Now 6.1 SAM feels horrible... I wonder how to fix it? Sounds like a Revert to Post6.1, at 6.08 where we were completely content.

Then again a billion dollar indie company can't make that happen ( while making plenty of other changes every other patch ). Great asinine excuse, how about at least addressing it?

• Gotta address ultimate
• Gotta address housing
• Gotta address ToS, again
• Gotta address Adventure Plate lewds
• Gotta address x y z
• Gotta address being sorry, yet again

Great, now... when are they going to stop dodging the bullet and address the Feedback on our JOBS!?

" Give it a try " they said - " We gave it a try " we said
" Give us feedback " they said - " We gave our feedback " we said.

Give back our Kaiten

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The Sad Part is, the Samurai Rotation feels reverted to lvl50 but with Kenki needlessly tagged on, because Shinten/Kyuten ect are just bonus attacks to skim off excess Kenki..
I asked a Friend who studied Japanese and Japonology how to ask for Kaiten's return politely, we came to this conclusion:

回天を返してくださいませんか

which roughly translates to 'Please give Kaiten back', as asked to a Superior, because Devs.

I started playing ninja today and it felt pretty good. Can finally stop playing this husk of a job called samurai.

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Originally Posted by WorldPeacElbow

I started playing ninja today and it felt pretty good. Can finally stop playing this husk of a job called samurai.

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The Mug/Trick Attack Switcheroo isn't as Bad as getting one if not the most important skills removed^^
+ It's quite easy to deal with that change aswell, Samurai is a different Fantasy than Ninja though..
And Samurai serves a Fantasy that got it's fun currently removed. Yet Ninja has great Glamour Options!
I also play Ninja, mainly as secondary DPS in the shadows (so to speak) but I'll subbing NIN aswell when the Pain of Monotony grows too strong while progging DRS
I'm also frankly getting slightly tired of trying to get the attention of the Devs so they rethink or dare to roll back all those changes of 6.1 because, Samurai is now the most braindead and unrewarding Job in the entire Game:
The Guaranteed Crit is a Nice Idea but getting rid of Job Identity Defining Abilities is something to avoid! Kaiten was a unique Skill that required mastery through careful resource Management (tl;dr: THINK!) Now Thinking isn't required anymore. You got 1 Enemy and 25 Kenki? Shinten!(or Senei every 2minutes), you got more enemies and 25 Kenki? Kyuten!(or Guren every 2 minutes)
Tenka Goken at first I didn't even noticed that change.. I just noticed that Tenka Goken is shorter.. then I looked closer and saw it's a Circle AoE now that requires no target to active (tl;dr: LESS THINKING) Ohh Great! it's not like that I had Fuko, Mangetsu, Oka, Kyuten AND Mumyo Shoha to do just that, no please make so I have to think less! (obvious sarcasm!!)..
I'm listening to Collective Consciousness from the Metal Gear Reveangence OST and this Song thumbs up the entire situation of the Samurai and maybe even the Game and the Community itself.

No do not bring Kaiten back please!

Remain forevermore & remain steady with 6.1.

Finish this unrelenting crusade of similar posts

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Originally Posted by Vencio

No do not bring Kaiten back please!

Remain forevermore & remain steady with 6.1.

Finish this unrelenting crusade of similar posts

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Thanks for the bump :)

It won’t happen,

Just enjoy the job as it is,

It still is effective

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Originally Posted by Vencio

It won’t happen,

Just enjoy the job as it is,

It still is effective

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You sound almost scared they will bring it back. If they do will you still be riding this "square can do no wrong" train I wonder?

Return Kaiten

No, rather growing such interests as to see how persistent most you are with something that’s no longer present,

Almost making Kaiten as a Martyr of some sorts