1 ultimate instead of 2 ?

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Originally Posted by icrot

Of course it will not be more difficult, it will just be more bloody boring.

It seemed like a good thread to debate, but you must be a troll, just repeating the same stuff ad nauseam.

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if you really think that a 30mn ultimate is not harder than a 15mn ultimate you’re definitely delusional

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Originally Posted by hfang

You wouldn't have made this thread if you didn't care. I personally don't use <The Legend> or the weapon either, but you don't see me telling people the fights need to be longer so less people can clear them thus making them "more prestigious"

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I just want more difficult ultimates

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Originally Posted by Nethereal

Also OP is a triple legend fyi.

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...and that adds no credibility to what they're saying, just makes it even weirder for them to have such a take

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Originally Posted by CaedemSanguis

I just want more difficult ultimates

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I agree with you, more difficult ultimates would be cool, and i'm sure Dragonsong Ultimate will be harder than anything we have in the game right now -- but making the fights longer does not achieve that

There's a reason why Nintendo bosses often has a rule of 3 instead of a rule of 6. At some point it's like, yeah ok I've proven I can do the mechanics, must I really keep doing the same thing over and over again?

Making a fight longer doesn't make the fight harder. It just makes it more mentally draining. Not saying all boss fights should be no longer than a Nintendo boss fight, obviously different games have different styles and appropriate lengths. But MMOs in particular generally should not last much more than 10 mins at most.

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Originally Posted by CaedemSanguis

if you really think that a 30mn ultimate is not harder than a 15mn ultimate you’re definitely delusional

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Whatever.

Cycling through the same mechanics 10 times instead of 5 doesn't mean it is more difficult. Just more room for error because you are mentally drained of repeating the same thing. That's NOT difficulty.

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Originally Posted by icrot

Whatever.

Cycling through the same mechanics 10 times instead of 5 doesn't mean it is more difficult. Just more room for error because you are mentally drained of repeating the same thing. That's NOT difficulty.

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Same mechanics ? where did i say to just repeat some mechanics in order to reach 30mn, wtf

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Originally Posted by CaedemSanguis

Remove pvp and housing then :p

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And Diadem

"Endurance" is difficult, sure. You can perform something skillfully, or you can endure a test over a longer time, both are "difficult" but theyre not the same and they don't offer the same sort of reward or sense of accomplishment.

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Originally Posted by Nethereal

Also OP is a triple legend fyi.

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I mean I am too and I don't necessarily agree that Ultimate would be better at 30m than it is at 15-18m. If the goal is to exhaust the competition to maintain some "prestige" why not go for Gold and suggest 120m Ultimates? On the topic of endurance tests since PW and AV were mentioned, players used to go entire days on bosses. What's two hours?

Someone brought up deep dungeons in response and got dismissed but honestly going hard in deep dungeon is an endurance test on its own, and if an endurance test is what's being sought after then adapting deep dungeons into an even more challenging wave based mode might be the answer rather than "staple two ultimates together and call it a day."

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Originally Posted by hfang

...and that adds no credibility to what they're saying, just makes it even weirder for them to have such a take

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I just brought it up because I find conversations like this disingenuous when people aren't being completely open about what their stance is and how invested they are in the conversation.

I.E.

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Originally Posted by CaedemSanguis

Do you see an ultimate title/or ultimate weapon skins ?
https://fr.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...cter/11577662/

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Trying to appear disengaged with the subject but actually actively participating in the background.