Is healing broken?

As a tank, the EW dungeons feel pretty easy. The 90 dungeons specifically seem to only have, at most, double pulls. So there’s really not too many “massive” threatening pulls. Of course, PLD did receive quite a bit of passive healing during spell phase but still.

So seeing this thread about healers struggling does come as a surprise.

Ofcourse leveling dungeons can be hit or miss depending on tanks level, gear, and skill level.

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Originally Posted by TristanX

Nope, no issue for me. Unless the tank overpulls more than they can handle. Can't save the tank with all my CDs.

I read somewhere that this expac will make healers heal more.

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How does a tank “overpull” exactly? Please explain?

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Originally Posted by LittleImp

My healer friends were remarking about how little they feel they need to heal in the endgame dungeons just the other day. I think that it's the same effect we saw at the start of SHB; Almost no-one is overgeared for the new content, so it feels like things hit a lot harder. That'll quickly change as time goes on.

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Except that I'm noticing the same in old content as well. I've been having to resort to GCD heals in dungeons I previously didn't have to. Everyone was isynced as well, so no; I don't think that's what we're dealing with this time.

Last night an NM Alexander raid had an unavoidable AoE take down my isynced Sage when I was a little over 50%. I normally would survive that AoE so I did not heal myself. That is just one of several examples I have of players dying because I didn't top them up when I normally didn't need to.

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Originally Posted by Wyakin

How does a tank “overpull” exactly? Please explain?

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They pull a sufficient amount of enemies to cause their death, surpassing their survivability and the healers capability.

Healers are healing more than they are doing damage in brand new content? You don't say! How terrible it must be for healers to heal and not be DPS.


This is a really bad take, OP. Nothing is broken.

Maybe yall should affix some materia.

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Originally Posted by Xaruko_Nexume

They pull a sufficient amount of enemies to cause their death, surpassing their survivability and the healers capability.

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There aren’t enough enemies in a dungeon to pull more than the capabilities of a healer. The player themselves who can’t be bothered to press a GCD every 2.5s maybe. But even if you wall to wall pull. There’s not enough mobs to achieve this

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Originally Posted by Recon1o6

from what i seen, whm and sch struggle immensely in the first dungeon while sage is spamming their 1 dot/nuke constantly and ast is doing a little bit of juggling. havent run subsequent dungeons as a healer yet to give a definitive opinion but speaking from tank perspective, it doesnt feel much different.= from usual start of expansion shenanigans

Speaking of, i loved the first dungeon. Trash packs with occasional adds (the hypertuned) that chunk off 1/10 of the tanks hp with every auto so they were actually dangerous, mechanically intense bosses and awesome music. Definately earned its way to the number 1 dungeon spot.
Best of all, they finally acknowledged healers again the msq!

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I only struggled when people stood in crap. SCH.

And SE plz stop grouping me for trials with sages that overwrite my stuff immediately just because.

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Originally Posted by Wyakin

There aren’t enough enemies in a dungeon to pull more than the capabilities of a healer. The player themselves who can’t be bothered to press a GCD every 2.5s maybe. But even if you wall to wall pull. There’s not enough mobs to achieve this

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sigh I knew I shouldnt have bit. But I did.

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Originally Posted by Wyakin

There aren’t enough enemies in a dungeon to pull more than the capabilities of a healer. The player themselves who can’t be bothered to press a GCD every 2.5s maybe. But even if you wall to wall pull. There’s not enough mobs to achieve this

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You've obviously never gotten the Tank That Doesn't Know What Mitigation Is.

You can most certainly pull more than the healer can handle when you're not using CDs. Especially when the SCH is out of Aetherflow and Dissipation is on CD.