New Relic weapon quest - are we down to 1 hour content already?

The problem is step 1 takes an hour, step 2 is more then likely months away......

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Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth

They have a field instance like anemos coming in the next step. This was just step 1.
Also, anemos wasn't really meaty content according to many people who loved to complain about it. It was just fate grinding which everybody hates.
I just find it funny that now that the new relic is out, and the grind isn't there yet, everyone suddenly loves eureka.

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It's simple. The way to fix something people have an issue with isn't to go to the hard extreme in the other direction. People want something to do in the game in order to progress. People want to accomplish something but don't want to grind for hours on end, nor do they just want to be handed something; They want a middle ground.

I’m starting to wonder if the FFVII team raided the XIV team for resources to help them catch up. It’s starting to feel like that, or the studios that Yoshi was using in China got hit way harder by COVID-19 than anybody is saying.

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Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth

They have a field instance like anemos coming in the next step. This was just step 1.

Also, anemos wasn't really meaty content according to many people who loved to complain about it. It was just fate grinding which everybody hates.

I just find it funny that now that the new relic is out, and the grind isn't there yet, everyone suddenly loves eureka.

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Eureka was heavily complained about until Pyros and Hydratos, but Anemos and Pagos when on content was extremely boring.

My issue with Anemos was that it was a glorified FATE grind, which we've had in previous relic tiers but sold as an homage to FFXI endgame (like Abyssea) , but didn't feel like it was. And levelling was not that great.

That said, I felt it was a step in the right direction and I had my own suggestions for tweaks back then, which essentially builds on the leve system to create forced spawns (perhaps based on certain criteria) that is claimed to your party, which give them more room to design mechanics around team effort than the stand face roll of a FATE. This would be a better homage and be more interesting.

I'll see how I feel when I play it, if its just a first tier, then I'm less likely to complain, because the first tier of ARR relics was easier and was just nice to have /a/ relic for your jobs without massive grinds.

So I'm less inclined to cry fowl just yet.

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Originally Posted by Videra

If it's 480 it's still a form of catch-up gear. Either way, I'm just kind of observing that it's *plain odd* because I can't think of examples of them putting armour behind an EX trial before.

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If you want easier to get catch up gear just buy the neo-ishgardian stuff or have a friend make it for you.

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Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth

I just find it funny that now that the new relic is out, and the grind isn't there yet, everyone suddenly loves eureka.

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I was literally thinking this reading through the responses. I remember people slamming Eureka when it first came out. Before this, you'd still see people going, "I just hope it's not another Eureka."
What changed?

And just to be clear? How exactly do you earn the durable AF this time around? I keep seeing people talking about an Ex trial? Is there a new one that's been added?

Disappointing that it is short, but I will take it over the atrocity that was Eureka every day. This stepis most likely just so people can get their weapon and get attached to it. I am fairly certain the next step will be very much like Eureka so that people can do their beloved fate train again.

And now we should wait another 3 or 4 months (if not more) for actual relic grind, after one hour duty, great. Muh content, still waiting for minion farm btw.

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Originally Posted by Renato

I was literally thinking this reading through the responses. I remember people slamming Eureka when it first came out. Before this, you'd still see people going, "I just hope it's not another Eureka."
What changed?

And just to be clear? How exactly do you earn the durable AF this time around? I keep seeing people talking about an Ex trial? Is there a new one that's been added?

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There's nothing to do other than raid log is what changed. I was hoping the relic would be something to do in the game to fill time. Instead its an hour worth of content and an ex trial i'll probably be done with in a day or two. shadowbringers may have good story but it is SEVERELY lacking in the content department.

also, i know this may be surprising, but the voices of people who never got to pyros and hydatos don't represent the entire community's thoughts on eureka as a whole.

There is no dyeable level 80 af weapon. Dyeable job armor is earned from tomes from the EX trial, although I'm unsure if its the 80AF armor or something else.

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Originally Posted by Mavrias

There's nothing to do other than raid log is what changed. I was hoping the relic would be something to do in the game to fill time. Instead its an hour worth of content and an ex trial i'll probably be done with in a day or two. shadowbringers may have good story but it is SEVERELY lacking in the content department.

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