Red Mage "better"??

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Originally Posted by wereotter

because sometimes using a skill in an unintended way causes higher damage.

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I just wanted to make sure that you understand this is the same as claiming the devs don't understand the game. I'm not here to argue the point one way or another, just to make sure of that one thing. Just to make sure you understand that in this damage-is-everything game, if something is both "more damage" and "unintended", it means they don't understand the game, or at least the class that it's designed for.

Is that what you are claiming?

At least it was something. I would also have liked changes to embolden as well. We will see how it works out

So any have been testing the new changes? I did the new dungeon and it seemed ok. Looks like a new animation for enchanted moulinet as well was added? It could just be me, lol

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Originally Posted by Maero

So any have been testing the new changes? I did the new dungeon and it seemed ok. Looks like a new animation for enchanted moulinet as well was added? It could just be me, lol

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Not so much a new animation as the current one's been almost doubled in size thanks to the AoE change. Regarding the buffs, they felt great in the first couple Savage fights and progging Hades EX. Reprise stands our as easily the most impactful change of the bunch, too. Truly this is a glorious time to be a RDM!

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Originally Posted by Maero

So any have been testing the new changes? I did the new dungeon and it seemed ok. Looks like a new animation for enchanted moulinet as well was added? It could just be me, lol

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As said, Moulinet's particle effect got bigger because of the range increase.

As for Acceleration, I'm so-so on that one. When Yoshida talked about adding charges, I though it would be like Intervene that could be used multiple times, with each use having its own cooldown. What we instead got was a 20-second window in which to spend 3 stacks of Acceleration. This is great at the beginning of a fight when you start at 0 mana, but I find myself reluctant to use it if a) Manafication is near or off cooldown or b) I'm anywhere close to 60 mana on either bar. On the other hand, making Acceleration work like Intervene would have made for spammy oGCD shenanigans, so maybe that's a good thing.

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Originally Posted by Duelle

As said, Moulinet's particle effect got bigger because of the range increase.

As for Acceleration, I'm so-so on that one. When Yoshida talked about adding charges, I though it would be like Intervene that could be used multiple times, with each use having its own cooldown. What we instead got was a 20-second window in which to spend 3 stacks of Acceleration. This is great at the beginning of a fight when you start at 0 mana, but I find myself reluctant to use it if a) Manafication is near or off cooldown or b) I'm anywhere close to 60 mana on either bar. On the other hand, making Acceleration work like Intervene would have made for spammy oGCD shenanigans, so maybe that's a good thing.

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Given Reprise's new role in our rotation, Acceleration can apparently be used effectively up to about 64/60, give or take a couple mana. Honestly, the buff stacks are the best outcome, it makes for some interesting optimization moments overall.

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Originally Posted by Leidiriv

Well, the change to Acceleration guarantees that we get the Perfect Proc Opener every time, which gets more damage in raid buffs. The spell buffs work out to be roughly a 600 DPS increase, and the Reprise change is a pretty massive buff to both our rotations considering it's now our highest pps action aside from meleeing (but not quite as quantifiable until we know exactly how Reprise works in the rotation). Along with that, the buffs to our co-DPS end up making Embolden stronger, which will end up being a gain for us as well.

All things considered, RDM made out like a bandit this patch. We got substantial number buffs and we basically got a whole new button for our rotation even!

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Yeah while I was bummed that ShB didn't bring much to the table in terms of new skills for me personally that I enjoy using, the Reprise changes and Accelerate changes fix a lot of my problems with the opener.

I feel really happy about RDM now, with the slight buffs from the trait and the way accelerate fits into the combos where you still have to think about when you use it due to cast times I'm pretty happy about the new rotation. With Accelerate's change it gives me some interesting things to think about in regards to when I pop it after the opener and/or using swiftcast with it. I like it a lot and the class still feels good to play.

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Originally Posted by Tobias_Azuryon

Yeah while I was bummed that ShB didn't bring much to the table in terms of new skills for me personally that I enjoy using, the Reprise changes and Accelerate changes fix a lot of my problems with the opener.

I feel really happy about RDM now, with the slight buffs from the trait and the way accelerate fits into the combos where you still have to think about when you use it due to cast times I'm pretty happy about the new rotation. With Accelerate's change it gives me some interesting things to think about in regards to when I pop it after the opener and/or using swiftcast with it. I like it a lot and the class still feels good to play.

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Yeah, I really like how Acceleration fits into the rotation now, and Reprise makes a very unique and interesting point of optimization now. It *could* do with slightly more potency but I'm not going to go down that rabbit hole. It's perfectly functional at 300 and that's all that really matters imo.

Rdm is mostly ahead of all physical ranged and in some fights can keep up with Nin ..

Dps-wise Rdm seems ok for its "utility"...

just Smn is OP atm (top Dps in almost all encounters, especially with heavy movement)

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Originally Posted by Shiroe

Rdm is mostly ahead of all physical ranged and in some fights can keep up with Nin ..

Dps-wise Rdm seems ok for its "utility"...

just Smn is OP atm (top Dps in almost all encounters, especially with heavy movement)

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Oh yeah, 100%. RDM is pretty much exactly where it should be, it's the healthiest the class has ever been.