Mendacity AND Genesis removed?

This happens every expansion I’m surprised this thread is still going.

It's silly to me that one tome is used for level 50, 60, and now 70 gear, but it's the precedent started when they retired the max level HW tome on SB release and made poetics handle 60 gear too, and I therefore was not surprised to see them do it again now with 70 gear.

I guess they really just want to keep the number of different types of tomes to a minimum.

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This happens every expansion I’m surprised this thread is still going.

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Yes, this is what happened for all of the one expansion we've been through so far.

I mean, it's one thing to say you're not surprised (as I said), but let's not act like there's a whole history of past expansions where they've done this.

But they should raise the cap on every expension for it... its soo much to buy by now and you get more and more stuff giving it...

If you want to nit pick what I said, sure go ahead, my point was there is history of them doing this and there’s no point of freaking out about SE stealing their times or making a big deal like some are, FFXIV’s tome progression formulaic and there was no reason to expect things to change.

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Originally Posted by Kuroka

But they should raise the cap on every expension for it... its soo much to buy by now and you get more and more stuff giving it...

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Not really, in the 10 levels between each set you have plenty of time to replenish poetics while getting exp.

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If you want to nit pick what I said, sure go ahead, my point was there is history of them doing this and there’s no point of freaking out about SE stealing their times or making a big deal like some are, FFXIV’s tome progression formulaic and there was no reason to expect things to change.

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Let's be real here; the only reason you said "every expansion" instead of just mentioning HW was to try to legitimize your own position in making the OP/topic look more stupid/unnecessary.

Tome progression throughout a patch/expansion cycle has indeed been formulaic (one uncapped tome, one weekly capped tome), but there has been precisely one opportunity before where, at the end of a cycle (4.0 specifically) they made the decision to nuke both the latest set of tomes and put all of their stuff onto poetics. You do not make a formula or pattern out of ONE instance of it occurring.

Regardless of how you want to spin it, saying "this happens every time" when it's only happened once before is, while not technically incorrect, still kind of misleading and presumptuous.

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Originally Posted by Fynlar

Let's be real here; the only reason you said "every expansion" instead of just mentioning HW was to try to legitimize your own position in making the OP/topic look more stupid/unnecessary.

Tome progression throughout a patch/expansion cycle has indeed been formulaic (one uncapped tome, one weekly capped tome), but there has been precisely one opportunity before where, at the end of a cycle (4.0 specifically) they made the decision to nuke both the latest set of tomes and put all of their stuff onto poetics. You do not make a formula or pattern out of ONE instance of it occurring.

Regardless of how you want to spin it, saying "this happens every time" when it's only happened once before is, while not technically incorrect, still kind of misleading and presumptuous.

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Let’s be real here, I meant exactly what I said, end of discussion. All this thread is doing is to make people panic about loosing their tomes/ability to gear because they don’t read the lodestone page addressing this.

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Originally Posted by SerLuke

people panic because they don’t read

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The real issue here, and with many things in this game.

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Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth

The real issue here, and with many things in this game.

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Eh that’s true and hard to argue with lol

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Originally Posted by Unholychinchilla

That's because creation was cycled out mid-expansion. At the start of a new expansion the previous expansions tomes get rolled into poetics. This is exactly what happen at the beginning of Stormblood, where the last two tomestone types (Lore and Scripture) could be traded in for poetics. The beginning of Heavensward was a bit different as it was the first expansion and poetics was originally the final capped tomestone of A Realm Reborn so it didn't need to be traded in.

Don't think of it as trading in Genesis being traded down to poetics, it's more that poetics is having it's level range brought up to include Genesis gear and replacing Genesis.

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I wanted to thank you, by the way. I wasn't joking or making things up when I said that it's a tough subject to simply google.