Possible Compromise on Gender Locks: Volunteer Work

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Originally Posted by Shiro--Tsubasa

please don't lump the entire ff14 community under this. Not everybody wants the other genders for the two races, most are content with what we got and some don't want em in the game.

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Most are not content. Have you even seen the most popular threads?

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Originally Posted by DamianFatale

Most are not content. Have you even seen the most popular threads?

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In reality, you don't know what the "community" think.

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Originally Posted by DamianFatale

Most are not content. Have you even seen the most popular threads?

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I've seen them. And they started with a large influx of likes in just 4 days and significantly plateaued after that it could barely reach 1700. And now it ended up being the same handful of people over and over again sharing art.

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Originally Posted by xJimmehx

Well, technically it is. Because Yoshida isnt being given back as much money as could be. He has a small budget and cannot change it himself. He has no choice but to hand the money he makes over. Yeah SE is loaded and im not saying its right or that i agree with it. I likely wont even purchase another SE game outside of XIV. I still like XIV though and would love to be able to support the team that the main branch of SE is leeching off of. The issue is definitely money. Its corporate greed, at least in my opinion. Though if we could somehow get away with helping XIV specifically, without it going to the others... well that would be nice.

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I'll quote my post again so you can see it.

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Originally Posted by Alucard135

Have you wondered why SE didn't already allocate resources to add the missing genders? Because most likely didn't see it profitable enough for them. That's why if the dev team was to decide to add them, it will be when they decide to use a portion of the resources they have. And as of now, if they haven't started working on that, then we might not see them in 6.0 (given how the new races we have now are still incomplete, according to some, when they started working on them since 4.1).

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Originally Posted by DamianFatale

Most are not content. Have you even seen the most popular threads?

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Im not agreeing or disagreeing with anyone. Im just going to say that the forums are a very small portion of the actual playerbase and sometimes certain sides can be overwhelmingly vocal about the things that they want. Its probably not always true that the thing being shouted about is actually "wanted by the majority." It very well could be in this case. Im just saying. It may not always be as it seems.

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Originally Posted by Alucard135

I'll quote my post again so you can see it.

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I agree with your post. Everything is about profit to them. They are a business, and its working as is. If we COULD make them pay forward some of that profit, I would be all for it. I just dont know how beyond leaving and even then it may not help. They already have the money. They just wouldn't get more.

Edit: As far as it being profitable, I guess maybe there just isnt enough interest in the other genders. Though I still stand by my stance. I want XIV to have a bigger budget.

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Originally Posted by Taybat

Where there people who didnt Male miquote or fem roe? If that's the case then those players will get over it just the same. And if you dont like it dont play it. Those players must be the same that asked to hide other players glamors when the Male bunny suits came put

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this and that are entirely different situations. adding them will harm the game long term. the devs flat out said what they would have to give up and what would happen if they did include them. With those races you mentioned it was different since they could handle them without any major drawback both short term and long term. People keep getting so caught up in "ooo shiny I want it" and don't pay attention to the negative effects it will have not only on the game, but the game's development and the development staff as well. Of course, resort to stupidity like labeling all those players as somebody who asked for something so mundane as that instead of considering that there are logical reasons behind it. x.x

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Originally Posted by LittleChickenNugget

Please stop spreading around false rumors and false hopes. This is exactly what causes people to get in an uproar when they don't "get what was promised". They never said there were going to be male Viera. They never said there WEREN'T gonna be male Viera. Stop.

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Actually, I recall around heavensward where bringing in Viera was a hot topic that Yoshi said something along the lines of "if we do Viera then we will probably have a male only race as a counterpart" so if anything they kind of alluded to there not being any male Viera.

This is a solution that only works for PC players even if it was a plausible solution. It took years for Skyrim and Fallout, as examples, to get access to mods on consoles, and even then Sony restricted them to only using assets already in the base game.

Better if they just got the manpower they need to actually finish these races in house.

But there never was any male Viera. They are only mentioned but never seen before.

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Originally Posted by Shiro--Tsubasa

this and that are entirely different situations. adding them will harm the game long term. the devs flat out said what they would have to give up and what would happen if they did include them. With those races you mentioned it was different since they could handle them without any major drawback both short term and long term. People keep getting so caught up in "ooo shiny I want it" and don't pay attention to the negative effects it will have not only on the game, but the game's development and the development staff as well. Of course, resort to stupidity like labeling all those players as somebody who asked for something so mundane as that instead of considering that there are logical reasons behind it. x.x

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Do you think that people will be mad because male viera or female hrotgar are added? The only reason some ppl dosent want them is because of some ppl (like on from a thread that has already died) made us look bad and they didnt want us to get what we wanted. at least 99% of the playerbase wouldnt get anywhere close to mad because others have more options than before