Should speed runs come back?

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Originally Posted by xbahax92

For you maybe. I see a way to filter bad players from good players, it would definetly make roulettes more enjoyable. If I had the choice between expert normal and expert hard roulette and if both would give same ilvl gear but the harder gives more or less rewards based on performance and speed, I would actually support this.
At least I wouldnt have to bother carrying people for their mediocre dps. And yes agreed, bad players would finally notice that they have to seek a guide and learn their freaking job.

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Excuse you? Bad players? Carrying people? Sounds to me like you should stick to PF/FC premades if dealing with unsatisfactory play styles bothers you that much.

I enjoy the game for not having to worry about 100% optimal speed run play. It's why I don't raid. I should not have to be kicked by an impatient speedrun group for being new and not versed to MrHappy or whoever people flock to for guides. Nor should other new players be subjected to it.

This sort of content absolutely would need to be separate because the NA playerbase is not JP. They will argue, they will fight and it'll be Arsenal all over again.

I remember wildstar having something like this. As soon as people couldn't get the max rewards they dropped group.

Why stop at bonuses for clearing quickly? I'd rather see them implement a separate mode for dungeons akin to Mythic+ in WoW that adds extra challenges like tougher mobs, environmental hazards, time limits, etc. Just keep it separate from the dungeons we already have so people who don't want a challenge aren't put off by it.

I like the idea, but it would definitely need its own queue. It's the sort of thing people need to be in agreement on before they join the group so they don't set their expectations on others who aren't interested.

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Originally Posted by Vanroe

I remember wildstar having something like this. As soon as people couldn't get the max rewards they dropped group.

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Maybe they could make queuing for speed runs require a voucher, and reward a voucher upon completion. Something to make leaving early hit harder than just finishing it - people would be less likely to drop if it was their last chance that week or they had to obtain another rare/expensive voucher which they could get back if they just finished the run. This would also encourage people not to do try a speed run when they're having d/c issues, and to queue with people who they trust not to ditch... overall just making runs smoother. Stricter rules for structured content.

But I donno. I'd probably never do them, lol.

Make it a specialty mode that you have to queue for with possibly some of the following thoughts.

1) Your gear is synced to ilvl minimum, not max (this would also create an ilvl minimum for all dungeons now, so you cant queue into something if you dont meet the minimum
2) Results are recorded and placed publicly per server. Could set up a thing where top speed runs for the month get a special in game reward, like MGP, or General purpose dyes, or the like.
3) There would be no 'gear' drops from the dungeon, per say, but rather crafting materials and potentially pets/glamour/dyes/etc.
4) Depending how loot is handled, you may have to either cap how many runs can be done per day, or adjust loot tables so you couldnt just farm all day long and destroy the MB with loot drops.

Something like that could be cool, and give incentive for people to speed run dungeons of any level, since you no longer would have an advantage if youre higher level. There might be issues of possibly disabling certain skills though (like peloton) so to ensure you dont need to have a bard specifically in your party to compete, but that would be touchy.

When did they ever leave?

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Originally Posted by Gula

Excuse you? Bad players? Carrying people? Sounds to me like you should stick to PF/FC premades if dealing with unsatisfactory play styles bothers you that much.

I enjoy the game for not having to worry about 100% optimal speed run play. It's why I don't raid. I should not have to be kicked by an impatient speedrun group for being new and not versed to MrHappy or whoever people flock to for guides. Nor should other new players be subjected to it.

This sort of content absolutely would need to be separate because the NA playerbase is not JP. They will argue, they will fight and it'll be Arsenal all over again.

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... but you would just have to not queue for this content that specifically is for speedrunning? As would other people who don't care about that sort of thing?

Honestly anything to breathe life back into dungeons would be amazing but content in which the tank and healer aren't consistently top dps because the dps are scrubs would be the icing on the cake.

It's like you want to be entitled to do the speedrun roulette without actually wanting to speedrun which seems really entitled. If I'm misunderstanding you by all means please explain but right now that's how your post reads to me. You could just not do it.

I'm okay with it as long as this type of thing is not on any dungeons required by the MSQ.