Auto-demolish

OP is confusing to me. You’re thinking of unsubbing... because your house would get demolished if you didnt play for a month, so you’re taking steps to make sure you don’t play for a month???

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Originally Posted by RitsukoSonoda

Instanced housing looks good on paper to many players as a solution though again most do not consider the full implications and what would actually be required to make it work in the capacity they are proposing. We recently were reminded that personal instances are not infinite either when Stormblood launched as people could not progress various quests that involved solo duties which created a personal instance.

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Only because an entire datacenter worth of people were all trying to shove into a single instance that was never likely built to support that degree of throttle. Housing, by comparison, would be built with the intent to support a far larger pool of players. The only hiccups likely to occur would be during the initial rush, and even that may simmer down quickly if everyone were able to have a house as there wouldn't be a need to rush.

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Originally Posted by AxlStream

I just love how people go "fix housing, it's so simple look at x game, y game and z game". Oh you mean games with dedicated MMO teams with multiple years experience if not decade at this point that have the MMO as a major part of the publisher and not a sort of spin-off like XIV?

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I don't understand what you traying to say?
Sure XIV didn't start great but it did start with Experience MMO Creator (XI) but they fail then Yoshi and his delicate team had to fix they mess... Trust me notone in the history of MMO has show more dedication to his game/community then Yohsi&Team... But even they EXP is limited like any men...
Btw XIV is not a sort of spin off in SE Eye, they been treating XIV as main dish for a while now. .-.
In HW pre-release they hardly told anyone in the world besides the community but SB announcement where EVERYWHERE even on thos street poster.

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Originally Posted by KaivaC

Wasn't this statement made back when the game had, like, 1 million accounts, tops, with less than half of thatlogging in at peak? Maybe they heavily underestimated the amount of players that would be playing?

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Does not matter, it does not change the fact he went against his own word and said nothing about it, like apologizing, or what needs to be done till we get a bigger budget from SE, something. I always figured the auto demo was a temp solution but it seems to be going for far to long as a temp solution, no?

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Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor

Those are two different arguments. Criticising Yoshida for going back on his word is not the same as conflating auto-demolition and taking a break. Put simply, you can still take a break, you'll just lose your house if it extends beyond 45 days.

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I explained why you are word twisting, I am amazed you are defending it.

He flat out said we will not have any system like that, it could be a year for an auto demo, it still breaks what he said.

Or maybe do you not understand what "but this is a thing of the past and we won't have any system like that."
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Originally Posted by Vstarstruck

I explained why you are word twisting, I am amazed you are defending it.

He flat out said we will not have any system like that, it could be a year for an auto demo, it still breaks what he said.

Or maybe do you not understand what "but this is a thing of the past and we won't have any system like that."
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Except I'm not. You are, again, conflating two different arguments. The person I quoted implied people with houses cannot take breaks, thus it contradicts Yoshida's stance. You can still take a break, just not an lengthily one, making it a false comparison.

As for Yoshida going back on that remark. I accept he may have grossly underestimated housing given the game's relaunch was only three months old. It's entirely unrealistic to have such a limiting system and not have some sort of auto-demolition, regardless of what was said prior. Does that absolve him of criticism? Of course not, but unless they ever do fix housing, a system like this is needed otherwise wards will inevitably go barren when players leave.

Instead, I'll criticise the system itself, which should have been abandoned ages ago.

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Originally Posted by Vstarstruck

He flat out said we will not have any system like that, it could be a year for an auto demo, it still breaks what he said.

Or maybe do you not understand what "but this is a thing of the past and we won't have any system like that."
means

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The developers had to implement an auto-demolition system; otherwise, I could guarantee that the majority of houses would be sitting in the Wards completely unused because the owners no longer play the game.

Which would you rather have? A system with no demolition in which plots belonging to owners that haven’t played the game since 2.55 or 3.0 or 3.3 sit collecting dust, or a system where houses are demolished after 45 days of inactivity from the owner so that people who are actively playing can actually own a house in a housing system that cannot even provide enough houses to satisfy 20% of the entire active playerbase?

Yes, they should do no auto-demo and have a functional housing system that is available to everyone, not first come first serve.

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Originally Posted by LastFireAce

Btw XIV is not a sort of spin off in SE Eye, they been treating XIV as main dish for a while now. .-.

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I dont think the argument is how SE's treating FF14 in terms of publicity, but rather budgetwise.
I have no clue if this is still the case, but last I checked it was fairly well documented that SE was (/is) siphoning the profits made by FF14 into other titles, instead of reinvesting it into FF14, opting to leave the MMO on a rather limited budget.

A budget I'm fairly certain all those "other" MMO's with housing systems are way, way above

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Originally Posted by Lazaruz

I dont think the argument is how SE's treating FF14 in terms of publicity, but rather budgetwise.
I have no clue if this is still the case, but last I checked it was fairly well documented that SE was (/is) siphoning the profits made by FF14 into other titles, instead of reinvesting it into FF14, opting to leave the MMO on a rather limited budget.

A budget I'm fairly certain all those "other" MMO's with housing systems are way, way above

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SOE did same with EQ.

Ive said it before, after watching just Mist for 8 MONTHS, gdi that was insane, to get mansion I watched small houses come open constantly and medium at least 1-2 a week, and that was only in Mist.

Which speaks volumes for all the people who own houses but no longer play. The wards would be full of empty houses if it were not for the reclaim system. They put it in for a reason, I am sure they saw this exact trend and that is why.

If SE actually had the amount of subs they boast about, then they would have the money to keep housing servers going for 1 person but when you look at real sub numbers...

Wards were and still are a mistake, for this reason if none else. They just cannot let it go though. It's like when you do something silly and you know you are wrong but you just wont admit it and keep fighting no matter what.