Logout Measures

This is the worst solution. Kicking everyone to have a 2hr que to get back into a server, isn't a solution. This is by far one of the worst ideas I've seen out of any mmo. If you this is your last ditch effort to calm the high pop servers, maybe you should have WAY better incentives to move to a dead server for people on these high pop servers, or maybe have a afk auto kick work even if you're occupied. Ruining the game for everyone including the small servers isn't the way you fix a problem.

I think this is mainly to show that they are aware of the problem, though I think the action is not useful.

I play on Famfrit, and Famfrit hasn't had a long queue time since early release. EA the highest I saw it go was like 300-400. Once EA ended, we were only in double digits. And now, for example yesterday, I was only 7th in line. We haven't had problems in a week or two and I don't see anyone doing the AFK method. And now, because of people on Balmung, and maybe others, it is going to affect us now. I really don't see how that's fair. Yes yes I know I will be told I can log back in as soon as the 10 minutes are up, but I'm losing 10 minutes of gameplay I(and other people on my server) could be doing, maybe more when you consider dps queues, because of other server's problems.

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Originally Posted by Talraen

Is their intention to make everyone hate the people of Balmung or something? I don't get it.

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I don't think people with sense blame Balmung. I went there for the same reason everyone else did. Hard to blame players.

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Originally Posted by Grymmjow

This is the worst solution. Kicking everyone to have a 2hr que to get back into a server, isn't a solution. This is by far one of the worst ideas I've seen out of any mmo.

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I don't think there will be the queue you think. You assume everyone who gets booted will get back on. A lot won't. It does raise another issue, that a queue of 100 AFTER a reset takes longer than a normal queue of 500 since people JUST LOGGED and won't be getting off for a bit.

I think they're working on a solution to the AFKers, and this won't be the system for long. It sucks for the large servers if they get booted into queues, but hopefully the permanent fix will make it worth it. Hang in there. /serpent salute

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Originally Posted by Raynar-Bloodstrike

I don't think people with sense blame Balmung. I went there for the same reason everyone else did. Hard to blame players.

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I don't find it hard to blame players at all. I do it with gusto! To me, the idea that the place to be is the most crowded server is crazy. Yet (obviously) that seems to be the standard thinking. People moved to these servers because they were large. So yeah, I blame people for literally doing this on purpose, then complaining about the completely predictable consequences.

EDIT: Just to be clear, I don't blame players for this once-per-day logout nonsense. I do blame players for Balmung's queues, though. They are 100% at fault. Square Enix bears some responsibility for letting it happen as long as it did, but the fault clearly lies with the players.

This isn't just a Balmung problem. I play an alt in Ragnarok (EU) and I get 2k+ queues there as well. So it's very alright for them to apply this on several Data Centers.
Perhaps queues won't be big after each boot, since tons of AFKers will disappear. We should wait and see how it goes.

Wait, what is the actual plan?
Was there a set time that they would randomly pick?
Would this ever happen during peak times?
Does it effect everyone at once on the data center or will it only be for those who have been on for more than like an hour?
I do not see warnings when I am in a dungeon or raid from the system message till I leave and return to the server. Are they changing that to also send the warning out across the instance servers too?
How come they could not code a way that if there was no input detected after X time that you log out automatically? Why does it have to be coded that if you are standing around and not interacting with an NPC or marketboard, etc.?
Will this be only on the servers that have a queue time for the data center or are all the servers being kicked off at once?

It's actually only Balmung. Last night was my last night on Gilgamesh and when I logged in at prime time the queue was only 19. It literally took me 10 seconds to get on to Gilga.

I think patching actions that circumvent auto log out would be better soluttion.

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Originally Posted by Talraen

I don't find it hard to blame players at all. I do it with gusto! To me, the idea that the place to be is the most crowded server is crazy. Yet (obviously) that seems to be the standard thinking. People moved to these servers because they were large. So yeah, I blame people for literally doing this on purpose, then complaining about the completely predictable consequences.

EDIT: Just to be clear, I don't blame players for this once-per-day logout nonsense. I do blame players for Balmung's queues, though. They are 100% at fault. Square Enix bears some responsibility for letting it happen as long as it did, but the fault clearly lies with the players.

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Prior to the launch of Stormblood queues were not a problem on Balmung. While there were sometimes a login queue it was never longer than a couple of minutes.
I.e. it was not at all obvious that things would get this bad.