From Yoshida himself

Calm down?

Did Yoshi-P just tell me to calm down?

Awwww hellllll nawwww *goes into pigeon neck mode*

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Originally Posted by Mature

Some people just Overreacted in an absurd manner about WHM changes. Specially when the game is not even out even...

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You don't need to play it to see that it's toolkit is extremely weak compared to the other healers.
Heck, unless they completely overhauled the entire system from the April build till now, "waiting and seeing the patch notes" is not even a good argument. It's just delaying the inevitable.
Then you'll tell us to wait till savage, then wait till 4.1, then wait till 4.2. seriously, when are we actually allowed to voice our complaints?

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Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor

If the Lily mechanic isn't improved, people aren't just going to default to Cure spam when Regen remains a better heal. It's the same with mass pulling and healer DPS.

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You don't know how it will evolve.
Using more Cure could become optimal in Stormblood than doing mass Regen.

I wasn't really upset about the gauge and whatever... I was open minded about that... could be cool... whatevs... but lillies do need something else... a casting speed buff while having the stacks... increased heals... something... and yes... people will say it's not fair... blah blah blah...

My biggest issue was them gutting WHM of all their abilities... and giving it to everyone else, so WHM has to waste most of their action slots for the skills they use to have... and not giving WHM something else to replace those skill and buffs... that was upset me the most... yet they left repose... because that's a useful skill they couldn't have gave to everyone else instead

My concerns over WHM aren't about viability. I have no doubt in my mind that WHM will be viable for endgame content. My concerns are whether groups will find WHM desirable compared to AST and SCH.

When all three healers can heal and dps sufficiently, desirability of the healers will be determined by what else they bring to the raid, namely raid wide dps buffs which AST and SCH have but WHM does not.

I find the whole storm over WHM hilarious. Lilies boost recast of utility spells, confessions boost things, WHM is "pure healer".


Watch all the complaints vanish when we find out the raids have mechanics that make WHM top healer, glass cannon bosses or something like that.

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Originally Posted by Ceasaria

You don't know how it will evolve.
Using more Cure could become optimal in Stormblood than doing mass Regen.

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The likelihood of that is slim to none. They aren't going to make Cure or Cure II significantly stronger than their counterparts on Astro and Scholar. Regardless, it still doesn't change the fact cooldown reduction just isn't a worthwhile attribute in this game. Like I already said, everything is pre-planned. It's why Spear is considered fodder. An Astro giving me Spear doesn't mean I'll use Living Dead or Shadow Wall anymore than I did before. Likewise, it won't have me using Assize more unless I know the fight and am blowing it for DPS.

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Originally Posted by ErikMynhier

I find the whole storm over WHM hilarious. Lilies boost recast of utility spells, confessions boost things, WHM is "pure healer".


Watch all the complaints vanish when we find out the raids have mechanics that make WHM top healer, glass cannon bosses or something like that.

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There can be no content that requires a WHM to complete. Let that sink in. There can be NO CONTENT WHATSOEVER that can't be completed with an AST/SCH. Given that fact (and it IS a fact), why bring a WHM when you can bring an AST (20% more damage to the group) and a SCH (20% more crit to the group vs the boss)?

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Originally Posted by Nicodemus_Mercy

There can be no content that requires a WHM to complete. Let that sink in. There can be NO CONTENT WHATSOEVER that can't be completed with an AST/SCH. Given that fact (and it IS a fact), why bring a WHM when you can bring an AST (20% more damage to the group) and a SCH (20% more crit to the group vs the boss)?

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Idk man. I don't really care either. End of the day its the player. BiS class can be garbage in the wrong hands. So who cares.