Can Cash Shop be a bit more reasonable

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Originally Posted by Kerii

Their prices look right in line with WoW's... Should I go around and look at other cash shops to see what I already know? If you don't have the money for the items, then you can go without. It's "OPTIONAL".

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$25 for a mount in WoWs cash shop and a lot of the newer items in the cash shop of WoW were the charity items. There are no items on the FFXIV cash shop where the proceeds are donated to charity.

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Originally Posted by Chiramu

I think people are complaining mostly about the cosmetic items. Since cosmetics in cash shops mainly exist in F2P games, for a game with no F2P option there is a very high focus on cash shop cosmetics.

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90% of the cash shop items are lv1 glamours, leftover seasonal event gears and stuff you can also get outside of the cash shop in another skin.

F2P games make sure that you need the items in their cash shops (so you buy it). While SE give you just the option to buy it (if you really really really want it, even if you don't really need it) with no ingame mechanic that force you to buy it (and no, Retainers are not in the cash shop)

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Originally Posted by Chiramu

$25 for a mount in WoWs cash shop and a lot of the newer items in the cash shop of WoW were the charity items. There are no items on the FFXIV cash shop where the proceeds are donated to charity.

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However the proceeds of the Cash Shop did fund the establishment of the EU datacenters.

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Originally Posted by Rennies

Only if they refund people who have already paid for that stuff >_>

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That makes sense. Should refund all people who bought everything ever and get a refund for when things go on sale.
Ya'll have to admit the prices are insane, whether you have money or not but people defend the prices just kill me...
This is the fault of people who willingly throw their wallets at SE. Thanks team.

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Originally Posted by Jijifli

$30 for a flying 2 person mount that plays a boss theme for those riding it that goes on all characters.

Really, are you complaning the moogle mount is too much?

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Still overpriced, who cares about twin seaters? Rarely do I see anyone ride twins mounts.
But these topics never go well, people defend Cash shop too much so the rest of us might as well be mute.
Next thing you know, all glamour/mounts/pets are going to be in Mog and here you go screaming "IT'S OPTIONAL".
At least throw us a bone and add it in-game with a grind if need be, those who want it instantly can buy it. Everyone wins.

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Originally Posted by Belhi

I have two factors which effect my view on if a cash shop is ok.

1. Am I getting my money's worth with the ingame patch content?

2. Does the stuff on the Cash shop in any way place me at a disadvantage or do I feel in any way forced to purchase cash shop items to fully enjoy the game?

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Let's get hypothetical! /darkwingduck.

The major patches are basically paid DLC. Assume (I hate that word) that a person is paying 15 USD per month (or convert to your local currency). Is each patch (which again is just DLC you're paying for) worth 45 USD (again, assume each patch is on the 3 month cycle)? I dunno if it's true or not, but alot of people may think that patches are just "YAY! free content!". Is the content from 3.4 really worth a 45 USD DLC?

If not, then shouldn't the cash shop crap...I mean items (as useless as it is) be a part of those 45 USD patches? I dunno the answer here, just something to think about.

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Originally Posted by Mugiawara

Still overpriced, who cares about twin seaters? Rarely do I see anyone ride twins mounts.
But these topics never go well, people defend Cash shop too much so the rest of us might as well be mute.

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I see people using twin mounts all the time on the 2 servers I play on. I use them myself as well with my EB partner.

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Originally Posted by Bixillarla

I see people using twin mounts all the time on the 2 servers I play on. I use them myself as well with my EB partner.

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I see more people on the bird mounts from the primals.

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Originally Posted by Chiramu

I think people are complaining mostly about the cosmetic items. Since cosmetics in cash shops mainly exist in F2P games, for a game with no F2P option there is a very high focus on cash shop cosmetics.

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OP said it's ridiculous to have a $30 mount. Point still stands.

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Originally Posted by Mugiawara

Still overpriced, who cares about twin seaters? Rarely do I see anyone ride twins mounts.
But these topics never go well, people defend Cash shop too much so the rest of us might as well be mute.
Next thing you know, all glamour/mounts/pets are going to be in Mog and here you go screaming "IT'S OPTIONAL".
At least throw us a bone and add it in-game with a grind if need be, those who want it instantly can buy it. Everyone wins.

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Just going to note the most participation I had in the cash shop was buying a bomb shirt, so about $5. I don't care really for the other things, because I don't like how they look or I don't like something about them. The price isn't really an issue, because there's a reason for it. Like I said, it's a 2 seater (Which your other options are marriage or $65,) that can fly, on all your other characters (One of the other ones is on the married, I believe.) You don't have to buy it. I didn't buy it.

Also, glamour is technically all gear, so I want to ask if it has stats on it. If I'm buying 260 gear, then yes we have an issue. Then again people complain about spending $30 on a ticket because they just want the pet (Or worse, complain they have to spending $90.) Actually to be honest, I'd kind of like to buy a Titan mount since DF can't clear it and I can't just PF to stay together. And for minions... is it really a problem? It's a pixel creature following you around that does literally nothing.

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Originally Posted by Lucke

he major patches are basically paid DLC. Assume (I hate that word) that a person is paying 15 USD per month (or convert to your local currency). Is each patch (which again is just DLC you're paying for) worth 45 USD (again, assume each patch is on the 3 month cycle)? I dunno if it's true or not, but alot of people may think that patches are just "YAY! free content!". Is the content from 3.4 really worth a 45 USD DLC?

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I don't think nor would I look at it as paid DLC cause regardless of how often they added new content we would still be paying $15 a month just to log into the game.

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Originally Posted by Zojha

Well...whales will be whales.

They're pretty much trying to combine the F2P with the P2P model by having the sub fee for everyone and the extras for the whales - It ensures the game has no "leechers" that don't pay at all, unlike the normal F2P model while still retaining the extra profits that make F2P viable in the first place.

Quite interesting that it works, really. But then again, WoW did it before IIRC.

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Precisely, SE is able to have its cake and eat it too. The pricing on the cash shop has had no material effect on the number of subs, and as long as it stays that way SE can do whatever the hell it wants with cash shop pricing (getting the sub money AND whatever the market will bear on the cash shop). Successful business strategy 101.