YES!!! FINALLY!!! DUELING!!!

Dueling? With the PvP rules? Can you say "horrendously and inescapably unbalanced"? Only fast, high burst DPS would see victory during all that. Tanks have the survivability but can't bring the damage and, if cleric stance is still off bounds, healers would also be in a bad position for obvious reasons.

Here is the deal, the moves we all use are tuned for PvE and all those internal mechanics and job quirks are a hindrance in PvP. It says A LOT when the job itself makes you easy prey during PvP.

Here is a suggestion from me: The moves we always use? Get rid of them for PvP stuff. Make a new set of moves with animations and even names from the regular ones but with effects wholly oriented for the PvP scene. Ignore the job trinity, ignore a jobs "standing" in a party and make each job be able to stand up to other jobs.

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Originally Posted by Erudito

Dueling? With the PvP rules? Can you say "horrendously and inescapably unbalanced"? Only fast, high burst DPS would see victory during all that. Tanks have the survivability but can't bring the damage and, if cleric stance is still off bounds, healers would also be in a bad position for obvious reasons.

Here is the deal, the moves we all use are tuned for PvE and all those internal mechanics and job quirks are a hindrance in PvP. It says A LOT when the job itself makes you easy prey during PvP.

Here is a suggestion from me: The moves we always use? Get rid of them for PvP stuff. Make a new set of moves with animations and even names from the regular ones but with effects wholly oriented for the PvP scene. Ignore the job trinity, ignore a jobs "standing" in a party and make each job be able to stand up to other jobs.

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Warrior can bring damage and PLD can nullify your burst and slowly rek u lol. Its just for fun.

I wonder if the Duel-Area is big enough...

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Originally Posted by Caitlyn

I wonder if the Duel-Area is big enough...

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Yea is going to hurt, on Balmung. Guessing its an instanced area though to be honest

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Originally Posted by ADVSS

Yea is going to hurt, on Balmung. Guessing its an instanced area though to be honest

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http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/a...3&d=1472272127

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Originally Posted by Bayohne

Duel mode
It will be possible to battle 1 on 1 against each other in a public area located at the Wolves’ Den Pier. You’ll be able to request a match via a menu subcommand, and when accepted a countdown will start and the the battle will begin. We hope you can have fun with this for community events and while waiting for the Feast matches.

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I dont thinks its instanced, because you can do some Duels while waiting for your match.

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Originally Posted by Caitlyn

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/a...3&d=1472272127



I dont thinks its instanced, because you can do some Duels while waiting for your match.

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He meant it more like for example when heavensward came out areas where "instanced" to make sure the server gets no problem with to many people dunno if you can remember that.

quote before heavensward release:

A Field Instance is one of many copies of an area that you can travel to when changing areas.

These instances will be distinguished with a number at the end of the area name, such as "Coerthas Central Highlands 1", "Coerthas Central Highlands 2", "Coerthas Central Highlands 3", and so on. Each Field Instance will be the complete area, albeit separate copies.


aka if servers like balmung, gilga etc. have to many people in this area there will be a "instanced" basically the exact same area as usual just with limited players

Actually both are right i forgot about the beginning of HW with that implemented, and thanks for sharing the pic, this is going to get crazy cant wait to try it. Because its on the field like this, I really do hope that there will be a housing item like the triple triad board that will allow dueling in the near future

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Originally Posted by ADVSS

Yea is going to hurt, on Balmung. Guessing its an instanced area though to be honest

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Mhm...it might get another channel on release, but after the first few days? It's probably gonna calm down fast.

Wait a sec, the arena has walls? I just looked at it for 5 seconds and can already see some bard/machinist vs black mage matches going horribly one-sided.

Imagine: Match starts and BLM does not kill the bard/machinist before all their instant sleep/bind moves are spent, the bard/machinist will be at wall, removes Wanderer's/Gauss and starts shooting. BLM tries to cast but it gets interrupted by oncoming damage and wall. BLM has to move in close to wall but gets hammered by all the bard/machinist burst and dies before even getting close to wall. And even if he reaches wall, the bard uses repelling shot + silence+ bind or the machinist uses blank shot + silence + bind and reaches another wall. Repeat. Match over.

I am sorry if I come out as a pessimist in this topic but when there are so many possible ways for people to abuse/exploit the way the game works, I just can't help it. Hopefully they already caught these types of plays in tests and found a way to get around them or stop them.

I want dueling to succeed, development team! Please be on the watch for this!

Has there been any notes on rewards/incentives for PVP dueling? Not that I particularly care since the only thing that attracts me about this feature is me being able to fight my friends, but I'm curious.