Openly gay characters in ff14

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Originally Posted by Enkidoh

The exception seems to be the two male adventurers connected to the Wanderer's Palace HM quest, who state that the miqo'te of the pair was thrown out of his tribe for being gay, although that might be simply because he wasn't interested in satisfying the females of the tribe as a nuhn (the Sunseekers having a very rigid breeding tradition) and not because he was specifically gay.

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The quest dialogue could actually be read both ways (at least the english version).

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Originally Posted by Quest Dialogue

[...] because we were different. [...]

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Either because they were different from the rest of the tribe (as in gay), or different from each other (different races). Maybe someone with knowledge about the japanese original could clarify how it is in JP?

Another thing is, that he's actually a Keeper of the Moon, but it still might have been a similar reason why he was thrown out (e.g. not wanting to satisfy the matriarch, etc.)

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Originally Posted by Ar4093

The quest dialogue could actually be read both ways (at least the english version).

Either because they were different from the rest of the tribe (as in gay), or different from each other (different races). Maybe someone with knowledge about the japanese original could clarify how it is in JP?

Another thing is, that he's actually a Keeper of the Moon, but it still might have been a similar reason why he was thrown out (e.g. not wanting to satisfy the matriarch, etc.)

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Keepers aren't a distaff mirror version of Seekers; if Keepers are lions, Seekers are tigers, a traditional keeper adult male is itinerant and visits multiple females on a temporary basis for mating, he isn't attached to any particular one. Presumably if he isn't up for it some other male would quickly displace him and the females would barely notice. (This is assuming he's a traditionally-minded boy to begin with, which seems doubtful given he was settled in a village and not roaming the forest as Menphina intended.)

Also I thought it was pretty clear in the EN that they had to leave their village for being an interracial couple? There's a lot of queer players in my FC and they were all really happy the story avoided the gayngst trope.

Not sure if anyone remembers these two miqo'te near Forgotten springs. I'm fairly certain U'rahtalo (the brown haired one) is gay. I distinctly remember doing a quest for her, where you have to scare away some ooglers. She then responds with..

Urahtalo:
Ah, marvelous! Not an ogler in sight! You have my gratitude, adventurer. Though...having a good look at you...I suppose I wouldn't mind if you stole a peek now and then. Bet you didn't think my tastes ran that way, hmmm?
(Sorry don't have a screenshot, but I found the dialouge)
(Link to where I found the dialouge) http://xivdb.com/quest/66364/The+Eyes+Have+It

This could just be a generic responce to all characters, and races, but I'd say she was openly bi-sexual at least, like many miqo'te.

http://i515.photobucket.com/albums/t...psctzczcoe.jpg

She says that to guys, too, minus the "bet you didn't think I swung that way" addition. Most "gay" dialogue in FFXIV, alas, falls into the "girl-on-girl is hot" variety of fetishized lesbianism and tends to occur only when female NPCs would be hitting on the PC regardless of sex. Aside from Haurchefant's general flamboyance, the only male NPC to hit on the PC that I can recall off the top of my head (only play a guy, so this is just from what I've heard) is Thancred, and in those rare instances he has different lines with male PCs. No bi guys here.

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Originally Posted by Fenral

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Yeah. That's one of my biggest pet peeves. I'd love to see more prominent male NPC's who just happen to hit on another guy without the flamboyance that often accompanies such things. I'm also terribly bored of the 'skirt chasing rogue' trope. I'd find Thancred a lot more interesting if he showed an active interest in both genders or we encountered someone similar who did the same thing.

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Originally Posted by Theodric

Yeah. That's one of my biggest pet peeves. I'd love to see more prominent male NPC's who just happen to hit on another guy without the flamboyance that often accompanies such things. I'm also terribly bored of the 'skirt chasing rogue' trope. I'd find Thancred a lot more interesting if he showed an active interest in both genders or we encountered someone similar who did the same thing.

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I think the fact that F'lahamine shot him down every time he hit on her for 15 years was kind of amusing. Though I think Thancred and the Doman girl (the bar keep woman that worked with F'lahamine whom I can't recall the name) have a legitimate shipping between them.

I always assumed the Carpenter's Guildmaster was gay. He is very sensitive to the needs of that one Gridanian soldier(and the feeling seems reciprocated), and I kinda thought they were lovers, though I don't think it is actively pointed out in-game.

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Originally Posted by Sensyon

I always assumed the Carpenter's Guildmaster was gay. He is very sensitive to the needs of that one Gridanian soldier(and the feeling seems reciprocated), and I kinda thought they were lovers, though I don't think it is actively pointed out in-game.

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I think Beatin and Gairhard were childhood sweethearts that are still carrying around a lot of complicated feelings for each other, Beatin also mentions the relationship in the Siblings and Sidewhiskers mail moogle quest and certainly frames it like it was a very messy break-up. Mind, he's implied to be romantically attracted to the dance mistress in the Harvest Dance quest so he's probably bisexual rather than gay and also his emotional life is an ongoing disaster.

. . . I am really disappointed we didn't return to it with the HW Carpentry questlines.

Also among the U in forgotten springs is a gate guard who comments about the way U'lamana makes her tail curl in a way that very few others do, she is either a lesbian or bi, as U'lamana is female.

Loonh Gah is tsundere to both genders..lol..

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First off, freaking amazing community to be discussing this stuff without insults or shaming. <3 you all.

For the dev team, here's the appeal for LGBT characters: growing up, there are very very few LGBT heroes in any video game to look up to. Even in media up until the past 15 years, they've been entirely supporting roles with no real significance to overall story lines. They're frequently passing thoughts hidden in the story. I think that's what's meant by "openly" gay. There's hints, there's subtleties, but they're not major and you have to read between the lines. On the *other* hand, I'd hate for something like this to be a spectacle. My personal thoughts? Make Thancred bisexual. He's flirted with enough girls to get info, why not have him flirt with a male soldier in a cutscene to get info out of him? It fits his personality perfectly to do so.

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