It's almost impossible to level a new character now. What gives, SE?

In regards to low level gear, since there is such high demand for the gear you could make a fortune crafting the gear and selling it. It might be worth the effort. :)

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Originally Posted by Wolfie

You don't get any decent gear while leveling until ~20. Using high level gear penalizes you too much.

Your stats are terrible until ~20, so you have to rest every 1-3 mobs. It's also nearly impossible to fight any monster more than 2 levels above you.

You cannot complete any leve that isn't below your level. The linking mobs will destroy you. Leves now occasionally fail if you die.

The money rewards from leves, chesta, and quests at low levels makes it impossible to purchase any items via MW, unless you take up a gathering/crafting class and try your hand at marketing.

Have you done any thorough testing on your patch, SE?

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Grind Party - You can have this...

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Originally Posted by Quanta

So I'm guessing that you haven't given yourself any handouts then? No money/gear from your main and all that?

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I'm on an entirely new server, so straight up new everything. Even new character model and names, and I'm rockin' the solo just fine. Right now I just moved up to dodos and puks and those are going pretty good.

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Originally Posted by Delmontyb

In regards to low level gear, since there is such high demand for the gear you could make a fortune crafting the gear and selling it. It might be worth the effort. :)

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Sure, except most newbies are going to want to use what they make before they even think of selling to someone else. :P

The game was easy and solo friendly before this patch and still kept the new players away so stop using this excuse already. It doesn't matter if you one shot a mob or take 5 minutes killing it, you're still grinding and that's what kept most of the people i know away from this game. In every other mmo i've played besides FFXI, if you have to level up on just killing mobs its considered lack of content.

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So I'm guessing that you haven't given yourself any handouts then? No money/gear from your main and all that?

Anyways, people seem to be missing the point. This patch essentially brings back the worst part of FFXI by making the prospect of grouping so lucrative--

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So wait..the worst of part of an MMO is grouping and socalizing? No wonder people get upset by not being able to solo from start to finish.

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Originally Posted by Jennestia

So wait..the worst of part of an MMO is grouping and socalizing? No wonder people get upset by not being able to solo from start to finish.

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In these types of games, I'm used to people being either self-serving, overbearing assholes, or creepy nerds who seem unaware that nobody else cares about their collection of lolicon fanart, so you can imagine my reluctance to voluntarily subject myself to such horrors.

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In these types of games, I'm used to people being either self-serving, overbearing assholes, or creepy nerds who seem unaware that nobody else cares about their collection of lolicon fanart, so you can imagine my reluctance to voluntarily subject myself to such horrors.

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While I can't argue against this being valid for a shitload of gamers(and probably denizens of the internet as well), don't be so myopic. Try rolling with different crowds.

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Originally Posted by Malakhim

While I can't argue against this being valid for a shitload of gamers(and probably denizens of the internet as well), don't be so myopic. Try rolling with different crowds.

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Definitely not that way with a lot of FF mmo players. but definitely is that way with most of wow players. If you pick a random 10 from FFXI -or- FFXIV and compared them with a random 10 from any other mmo, I'm willing to bet you'd have a more "respectable" or even more "hygenic" human on the FF side.

Also, I stopped in gamestop to pick up my mule account, to find FFXIV had been discontinued :( but they had one CE edition left, but it was discounted to $40, SCORE! My mule is now 20THM. Grinded to 12 with random mobs and leves, then got a party for giant crabs by bloodshore and hit 20 in about 1.5-2hr. I don't see why it's so hard.

just find somebody to help PL you. it's easier than ever now according to so many folks. Before the patch it would take 3hrs of PLing to get to 20, now it should be more like 2 or less.