I hope Yoshi-P will not listen to all those immature requests.

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Originally Posted by Onidemon

Why do you think balancing PVP will affect PVE in a NEGATIVE way? Why can't i be positive? PVP will bring more balancing, even monthly balancing. But that is hardly a bad thing. It will only ensure no class is overly more powerful.... well some class would be weak vs some but strong others, like in water vs fire vs earth vs wind... some they each have a weakness but are strong vs another.

My point is it will benefit PVE too because like that no 1 class will emerge as best for PVE and that all players will need to use abilities from that class if not they wont be invited to a party or wont make a good enough tank etc... exactly what happened to FF XI.

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Changes classes on a monthly basis like WoW does is reason enough to keep PvP as far away from FF14 as possible.

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Originally Posted by Marious

Some people like PVP others don't, there are tons of games out there that have PVP and they do fine, but a lot of people that dont want PVP come play FF games. SE is not catering to PVP enthusiast it has always been about PVE for them, though I dont know what happen to XIV I mean there really is hardly any PVE to begin with :( still though why do people insist in PVP being added when it is available elsewhere? And same for jumping, I dont care if its there or not but people tend to act like idiots when it is, I have acted like an idiot with it in other games and I have seen thousand do the same...

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SE wants FF XIV to be #2 next to WOW as far as user base and the type of players they reach. They will end up being a niche with sub 1mil users if they listen to people saying dont add this dont add that and Yoshi-p is bitting into it apparently.

A good mmo is a game that has something for everyone. You can have PVP and everything else you want and yet not penalize those who don't want it. There is many way of doing it and other games like WOW are a in your face example of how it is done. i'll gladly agree with someone who doesn't want PVP if they give me one good and intelligent argument. The game is designed for PVE is not good enough... PVP is easy to add, especially in the state the game is currently in where the developpers are almost redoing everything from scratch.....

Man I am super late to the party but, found it funny the Title of the topic, and then I read half the OP... Well Done Sir. Well Done. I'll see myself out.

People are coming up with many good reasons not to add it you just are refusing to acknowledge that they are good ideas, Onidemon.

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Originally Posted by Dalmore

Because even if they have a PvP dedicated server its still means they will have to balnace every class inthis game. make every class able to kill any other class. so healers will have crazy dmg, support classes will have crazy dmg, tanks will have crazy dmg do i need to go on?. If you want PvP why are you playing FF14? FF series is about grouping up to get something done not killing each other. if you want that go play 1 of the thousands of other mmos out there.

tell me one thing that PvP wil or could accomplish in this game.... besides somethign to do,bring in more PvP players.
most people in the mmo community never expected or think FF14 is a "PvP" game.

I mean seriously how would it fit? Races hate each other? thats used to death. but why do they hate each other when FF games are about saving the world from something "BIG".

Like I said Spot yea thats fine. but open world PvP equals some sort of hate for other races, factions so on. LL hate grid now? sorry would never fit into a FF game.

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A healing priest in WOW cannot kill anything.... you got PVP gear, Specs(talent trees) and abilities/spells(mostly coming from the talent tree) that enables your class to PVP. So no....WOW has PVP and even open world PVP yet they did not make Preist have crazy damage.. just crazy healing. That my friend is how you balance a mmo.

Game balancing issues effecting people who choose not to participate in PvP is the only argument you really need. It is a good and intelligent argument regardless of if you choose to acknowlege it as such.

By the way open world PvP in WoW is considered by 99% of WoW players to be dead now.

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Originally Posted by Jibe

People are coming up with many good reasons not to add it you just are refusing to acknowledge that they are good ideas, Onidemon.

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if you read my replies to those good ideas you will understand why they are valid replies... i answered why monthly balancing doesnt mean it is a bad thing.

I answer why "i dont want to be killed why question" with "they can add a PVP flag u can turn on and off" ...

The game is designed for PVE... yet other games that start as PVE added PVP along the way... im not 100% sure but i believe WOW did not have PVP when they started? correct me if im wrong...

The state the game is in where the developer is changing everything even up to map designs means that yes they can add PVP....

What other valid reasons not to add PVP was given and that i missed?

PVP huh?...hmmm....no, i actually play FFXIV to get AWAY from PVP games, as for jumping....meh, will be fun to play around with but as for a "need" for it i don't know..

It seems that the majority of people posting in this thread are against PvP. Go Majority!