[Idea] Race: Allagan

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08-08-2015, 02:52 PM
Grimmel

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Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor

For one. How would they know? We are wearing Allagan stuff all the time and some outfits from level 50, which most of us still wore speaking to them which were allagan did not seem to offend them.

For two. Where is your lore to back up that fact that something cannot be a champion of light? It can only be a Humanoid? Can't be anything else?

I can see you have not even stepped foot in Azys Lla yet. Once you get to Azys Lla and do all the main story quest, you will understand why Allagan's can never be a warrior of light and how the dragons would be able to tell an Allagan from any other being on Hydalen; specifically the Main Scenario quests "Fetters of Lament." I advise you to finish the Heavensward MSQ before you return to this thread to further embarrass yourself with trying to push this idea when you haven't even finished the MSQ.

I also advise you to complete the Binding Coil's of Bahamut as the story in it details the Allagans tampering and systematic imprisonment of dragons.

After you've done that; THEN you can come back and answer your own question of HOW the dragons could tell an Allagan from any other being.
08-08-2015, 02:53 PM
Nektulos-Tuor

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Originally Posted by PotatoWafflez

http://www.internationalhero.co.uk/t/tron.jpg

http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/...20100507172705

This ^^^ is literally all I thought when I read your post. (Spoilers to reduce post size only)
Also robots seem rather out of place to be a race IMO seeing how Mammets are the closest/most common thing the average Eorzian will have to compare with.

http://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb2...la_Landing.png

They would not seem "out of place." to me.

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Originally Posted by Grimmel

I can see you have not even stepped foot in Azys Lla yet. Once you get to Azys Lla and do all the main story quest, you will understand why Allagan's can never be a warrior of light and how the dragons would be able to tell an Allagan from any other being on Hydalen; specifically the Main Scenario quests "Fetters of Lament." I advise you to finish the Heavensward MSQ before you return to this thread to further embarrass yourself with trying to push this idea when you haven't even finished the MSQ.

I also advise you to complete the Binding Coil's of Bahamut as the story in it details the Allagans tampering and systematic imprisonment of dragons.

After you've done that; THEN you can come back and answer your own question of HOW the dragons could tell an Allagan from any other being.

I didn't think Bahamut cares who visits him for one, and I have completed the MSQ. Your sayings are rather bigoted and bloated with useless hate to push a point I just don't see.

Also, as I said before. This is a race created from Allagans, not Allagans themselves. They would probably smell the same as you if you wore full Ironworks besides the human sweat, which would be covered by your companions. They probably wouldn't care and consider you inferior anyways until you proved yourself which you had to do. I really don't think the dragons care what or who you are, elezen, or dragoon they hate both those things but at least listened when we did not attack.

If anything, the "new" race would be prisoners themselves because they would be working as slaves on the ship.

I think you need to learn to "read" my thread a bit before replying further. =P Maybe you could also be a bit nicer about it too ;)
08-08-2015, 02:55 PM
PotatoWafflez

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Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor

http://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb2...la_Landing.png

They would not seem "out of place." to me.

I was commenting on the robot aspect not the aesthetics/theme
08-08-2015, 02:55 PM
Frederick22

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Originally Posted by Grimmel

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So what? I think are going way off topic now. Midgarsomir doesnt care what you are, judges you for what you have done. Image you are an elezen, dragons have reasons to hate elezens for same reasons like allagans
08-08-2015, 02:58 PM
Grimmel

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Originally Posted by Frederick22

So what? I think are going way off topic now. Midgarsomir doesnt care what you are, judges you for what you have done. Image you are an elezen, dragons have reasons to hate elezens for same reasons like allagans

We are not going off topic, we are still discussing Allagans we are simply stating why it will not work. Also please re-watch every Cutscene dealing with Heavensward and the Binding Coil of Bahamut because you seem to be missing a lot of info on the history of the Allagans and Dragons.
08-08-2015, 02:59 PM
Frederick22

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Originally Posted by Grimmel

We are not going off topic, we are still discussing Allagans we are simply stating why it will not work.

Btw I have done everything, and yes I know all what happened. Im well aware fo the lore of the dragons and allagans

But still that doesnt respond what I just told you.
08-08-2015, 03:03 PM
Grimmel

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Originally Posted by Frederick22

You didnt respond what I just told you.

Yeah.. you must have been a Cutscene skipper. It's Ishgardians that SOME dragons hate.. Not Elezens as an entire race. And only ONE dragon had a seething hatred for them, and that was Nidhogg. And we put an end to him. If you had bothered to watch any of the cutscenes you'd find out that the war against Ishgard and Dragons died when we killed Nidhogg. Now it's an internal war within Ishgards hierarchy and Ascians that we have to worry about.
08-08-2015, 03:04 PM
Nektulos-Tuor

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Originally Posted by Grimmel

We are not going off topic, we are still discussing Allagans we are simply stating why it will not work. Also please re-watch every Cutscene dealing with Heavensward and the Binding Coil of Bahamut because you seem to be missing a lot of info on the history of the Allagans and Dragons.

I like how you avoid awnsering important questions. What about the other things Dragons hate? What about all the technology weapons we used? What about being an Elezen? What about being a Dragoon? They seemed to literally NOT CARE WHO YOU ARE. THEY CONSIDER YOU INFERIOR. However, they did give you a chance to prove yourself.
08-08-2015, 03:05 PM
PotatoWafflez

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Originally Posted by Grimmel

Yeah.. you must have been a Cutscene skipper. It's Ishgardians that SOME dragons hate.. Not Elezens as an entire race. And only ONE dragon had a seething hatred for them, and that was Nidhogg. And we put an end to him. If you had bothered to watch any of the cutscenes you'd find out that the war against Ishgard and Dragons died when we killed Nidhogg. Now it's an internal war within Ishgards hierarchy that we have to worry about.

Except that Nidhogg isn't dead

So I think you are also guilty of missing part of a cutscene granted the war is lesser currently but I'd argue its not really ended just yet.
08-08-2015, 03:06 PM
Grimmel

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Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor

I like how you avoid awnsering important questions. What about the other things Dragons hate? What about all the technology weapons we used? What about being an Elezen? What about being a Dragoon? They seemed to literally NOT CARE WHO YOU ARE. THEY CONSIDER YOU INFERIOR. However, they did give you a chance to prove yourself.

See my post above yours. And what questions am I ignoring? I'm answering all of them. Go.finish.your.msq.

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Originally Posted by PotatoWafflez

Except that Nidhogg isn't dead

So I think you are also guilty of missing part of a cutscene

If you are referring to his eyes... Good gods help you. He is dead, His eyes can exist without a body. His influence can still take over someone via his stolen eyes.

I feel like I'm repeating myself in this thread, I'll just leave you earless mongers to your fantasies that will never happen.

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