I completly agree with you about the Sun part, makes indeed alot of sense, about the Third astral era part, im sorry, for some reason i always thought it would have been in that time that the allagans fell, i dont know why, but ive re-read the cutcenes now and yeah it makes alot more sense nowQuote:
Originally Posted by Frederick22
In any case it would seem to have rise in the third astral, changed from theocracy to technology in the end of the fourth astral, creating the calamity that made the 4th umbral
About the Qarn-belhadia-allagan relation, i thought Qarn had Belh'adian roots, and now, with the exact same simbols and architecture, Qarn and azys la old buildings are indeed not that difrent, so it could (completly speculating, specially because again i dont know the timings ) After the Allagan fall, wouldn't it be possible that the remaining ones kept worshiping Azeyma and the sun ? I never thouhgt of a relation between the allagan and qarn , but it would seem to be SOMETHING there.
Meracydia/Miqo'te/Azys La speculations (spoilers)
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07-30-2015, 05:35 AM-Krypyonite-
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07-30-2015, 05:39 AMFenral
You're forgetting that Syrcus Tower was actually quite recent, one of if not the last thing the Allagans built before the second reign of Xande. The difference in architecture between the Tower and Dalamud is less a difference of advancement, and more a matter of aesthetics, as the former was meant to be visited by the public, while the latter is a military facility with little use for fancy trimmings.
While the dimmer lighting makes it harder to make out, if you take time to compare the architecture of the Fractal Continuum to the architecture in Syrcus Tower, there are actually far more similarities than you'd think. Enough that they could easily be contemporary, even though the Contunuum feels much newer due to it's location in Azys Lla.
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07-30-2015, 05:46 AMFrederick22I thought that too, at the begining I thought that Qarn was the name of a temple for azeyma, made it by the belhadia. But if you read on the comments on the first pages, the people there are saing with strong evidence that Qarn was there before the belhadians, they used those ruins to recontruct. I dont know if the azeyma symbols were already there or where rbought by the belhadians, thst what people is discussing right now. But givven the amaising connection with the ruins on Qarn and the ones on Azys la, we can least can see how ancient was there. Thast why I have this 2 theorys, or Qarn was a possible proto allagan ( before the allag empire was made ) and second that Qarn, like egypt or sumeria, was one of the very first and most ancient civilisations, probably, during the 1st astral era.Quote:
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07-30-2015, 05:50 AMFrederick22No you total wrong, Crystal tower, LoA/ ST was made right after Xande's first dead, as a monument/castle.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenral
Much later on Xande's secong reing, he remade ST, chaging what it was original on a facility to collect sun enery with Dalamud as a satelite.
On the only thing we agree is that yes the difference is not only age/technology buit also a matter of aesthetics, but only that.
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07-30-2015, 05:58 AMFenralXIVDB is borked right now, so I can't pull out the script (and need to step out for a while anyways so can't load up the cutscene), but I'm pretty sure Doga and Unei mentioned that the tower was built at the height of Allagan power, long after the first Xande's reign, but was only in use for the span of a few generations before the decline of the empire became properly apparent and Xande was resurrected as a countermeasure.Quote:
Originally Posted by Frederick22
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07-30-2015, 06:04 AMFrederick22It was built as a sign of the greatness from allagans. To show their mighty and power. That doesnt mean when it was.Quote:
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07-30-2015, 06:05 AM-Krypyonite-that is right, its one of the cutcenes i have just read to make my statements. It is mentioned that it was a instrument to create energy and a ''beacon of hope and prosperity'' of allagan golden age, never read completly about the memorial for Xande. Only thing i seen as relation is that Amon resurected xande and he took the throne again.Quote:
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07-30-2015, 11:22 AMCorvinoobusMmm, well, things happen when you're working 300 hour months. This'll be corrected to Third Astral Era in 3.06. Apologies for the confusion!Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenral
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07-30-2015, 11:56 AMVargasVermillionYou're getting the towers origins mixed up with xande's. Xande was the first allagan emperor who was resurrected using the crystal towers energy by amon in an attempt to keep Allag in power. Since xande was the first and likely seen as the most successful emperor Amon figured reviving him could save allag.Quote:
Originally Posted by Frederick22
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07-30-2015, 11:57 AMFenralWell, then I'm happy to have (for once) been able to effect some small positive change! Keep up the good work!Quote:
Originally Posted by Corvinoobus