For anyone who won't see it, buffs to MCH not incoming

I Did just one dungeon as MCH lower level. It felt really fun and I Was critting a lot and actually ripped off the tank 2 or 3 times. Life was good. What I hear is that MCH Falls off past level 50. How exactly do they fall off? Is it like the scaling lowers or something? I'm asking because I want to max out 1 dps class and don't know which to start with.

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Originally Posted by pandabearcat

...no? I'm saying that our parsers could be inaccurate and so maybe the devs know something we don't. Yikes.

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I'm sorry, I just get incredibly irritated when people try to jump board when SE passes the puck to the players not playing optimal for low numbers (which was also the case for 2.0 warriors). Aside from DoTs, it's still accurate as far as showing damage dealt and averaging it into DPS. From my experience and checking numbers with, the numbers are relatively accurate with very small deviance in regards to DoTs. The thing is that machinist DoT (and apparently bard DoT) scales piss poor off of skill speed, nor does it buff our turret's damage.

Tl;DR : Everything gets picked up correctly; the turrets, wildfire, and lead shot DoT. If it wasn't tracking accurately for machinist, would it not get tracked accurately for all the other classes? Even if that was the case, they're still on the overall lower end of the spectrum.

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Originally Posted by Skypirate

I Did just one dungeon as MCH lower level. It felt really fun and I Was critting a lot and actually ripped off the tank 2 or 3 times. Life was good. What I hear is that MCH Falls off past level 50. How exactly do they fall off? Is it like the scaling lowers or something? I'm asking because I want to max out 1 dps class and don't know which to start with.

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One way to word it is that machinist doesn't really get much abilities to add onto their dps past level 50. Gauss Barrel at lvl 52 is a dps loss until lvl 60. Same with bard. Versus any other class that gets more tool kits added to improve their overall damage, esp SMN and DRG. Enmity/pulling aggro is a really bad way to gauge your damage; it speaks more of the tank than anything else.

That is okay. I stopped playing MCH because the rotation was a mess and not very rewarding. Damage did also seem to be a bit more on the low end, and what really kills me is they lack Foes and do not provide an equivalent.

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Originally Posted by RiceisNice

I'm sorry, I just get incredibly irritated when people try to jump board when SE passes the puck to the players not playing optimal for low numbers (which was also the case for 2.0 warriors). Aside from DoTs, it's still accurate as far as showing damage dealt and averaging it into DPS. From my experience and checking numbers with, the numbers are relatively accurate with very small deviance in regards to DoTs. The thing is that machinist DoT (and apparently bard DoT) scales piss poor off of skill speed, nor does it buff our turret's damage.

Tl;DR : Everything gets picked up correctly; the turrets, wildfire, and lead shot DoT. If it wasn't tracking accurately for machinist, would it not get tracked accurately for all the other classes? Even if that was the case, they're still on the overall lower end of the spectrum.

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Quick hit up on this, it's not parsing a lot of things for SMNs either. We may have to wait for ACT to be fully sorted out.

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Originally Posted by IfritReborn

One would wonder why SE just doesn't include an official parser in the game that can properly pick up MCH damage and quell the confusion and outrage going on, but I guess common sense is lacking these days.

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Because than it than would become a game of " do you meet my parsing expectations after 1 pull? yes? than you can stay. No? screw off. "

Assuming your referring to the in game parse people have asked for before if so than yea that

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Originally Posted by Seiko769

Because than it than would become a game of " do you meet my parsing expectations after 1 pull? yes? than you can stay. No? screw off. "

Assuming your referring to the in game parse people have asked for before if so than yea that

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Well, the situation we have now is that MCHs often don't even get a chance because of assumed low DPS, as measured by a third party program that might not be tracking it correctly.

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Originally Posted by Jeckyl_Tesla

Quick hit up on this, it's not parsing a lot of things for SMNs either. We may have to wait for ACT to be fully sorted out.

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Such as what? SMN parse has been pretty accurate for me so far unless you mean the effect of SS on their DoTs.

All the decent MCH's crying right now over this forum post. Please, just close the thread before you embarrass yourselves further. :'(

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Originally Posted by RiceisNice

Such as what? SMN parse has been pretty accurate for me so far unless you mean the effect of SS on their DoTs.

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Radiant Shield not parsing properly, and yes our DoTs mainly not parsing. Using old SS ticks (which if I'm not mistaken may even use the old crit mechani as in crit rating doesn't increase crit dmg?)

There's no arguing that ACT isn't working fully most of the time, we may need to wait and see.

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Originally Posted by Jeckyl_Tesla

Radiant Shield not parsing properly, and yes our DoTs mainly not parsing. Using old SS ticks (which if I'm not mistaken may even use the old crit mechani as in crit rating doesn't increase crit dmg?)

There's no arguing that ACT isn't working fully most of the time, we may need to wait and see.

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In which case, my question is how does this relate to machinist when 1) They only have one DoT. 2) Despite all this, average SMN parses still fair better than MCH consistently.

Even if it doesn't work properly, what's being said really does not add up to support that MCH dps is relatively closer than we think. Specifically because they still average lower than every other class, and what I mentioned above in relation to DoTs and SMNs still parsing comparatively high despite all that.