Pay for your inventory.

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Originally Posted by Honey_Tailtwitcher

I think $30.00 a month or anything approaching that, is insane. There's no reason a game should rival my internet bill in cost. I've been playing Final fantasy 11 and 14 for a very long time, beta tested both - and I would not be willing to pay that much. I'll switch to another game, that's not affordable or justifiable in my opinion.

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Why would you suddenly be paying $30 a month? You have no obligation to buy all available retainer slots, nor will they be remotely necessary.

Also, where are you getting $30 internet? I couldn't get two Dixie cups and a string for that here.

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Originally Posted by Honey_Tailtwitcher

I think $30.00 a month or anything approaching that, is insane. There's no reason a game should rival my internet bill in cost. I've been playing Final fantasy 11 and 14 for a very long time, beta tested both - and I would not be willing to pay that much. I'll switch to another game, that's not affordable or justifiable in my opinion.

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You are aware you nobody (has* to buy the maximum amount of retainers if they don't want to right?

A friend of mine mentioned that the Japanese notes say we get a 3rd free one in 3.0. can anyone confirm?

Gee I wish I had your I-net bill... >> Mine of 98$ is the cheapest I can get. Oo

You don't have to buy all 8 ... or is it 6 of them? But I suppose the principle behind it all rubs people wrong all the same. This I can respect.

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Originally Posted by Honey_Tailtwitcher

I think $30.00 a month or anything approaching that, is insane. There's no reason a game should rival my internet bill in cost. I've been playing Final fantasy 11 and 14 for a very long time, beta tested both - and I would not be willing to pay that much. I'll switch to another game, that's not affordable or justifiable in my opinion.

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Nobody's forcing you to buy extra retainers.

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Originally Posted by Vejjiegirl

A friend of mine mentioned that the Japanese notes say we get a 3rd free one in 3.0. can anyone confirm?

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Nope. Japanese text said "3 or more", there's a post earlier in the thread that cleared that up. Sorry. :(

Above all else the paid retainer system is extremely unfriendly to people who pay with time cards, locking us out of the use of it entirely if we don't want to throw a credit card on our account. More than anything else that's my biggest disappointment with the way they're handling things. One extra retainer isn't that much to ask for. With all 50s my armory space is becoming increasingly limited, and with all the new class-specific gear being added in 3.0 it's going to become even tighter. I'm not a hoarder. I'm very vigilant about removing glamour gear that I'm not going to use anymore, even gear that comes from Coil and I'll have a difficult time obtaining again. Please consider adding a third retainer for free!

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Originally Posted by Tsunenori

Above all else the paid retainer system is extremely unfriendly to people who pay with time cards, locking us out of the use of it entirely if we don't want to throw a credit card on our account. More than anything else that's my biggest disappointment with the way they're handling things. One extra retainer isn't that much to ask for. With all 50s my armory space is becoming increasingly limited, and with all the new class-specific gear being added in 3.0 it's going to become even tighter. I'm not a hoarder. I'm very vigilant about removing glamour gear that I'm not going to use anymore, even gear that comes from Coil and I'll have a difficult time obtaining again. Please consider adding a third retainer for free!

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This is a fair reason against the paid service. Then again, this comes from SE's FFXIV payment systems. The same system that has all my ways to pay my sub locked out save through Crysta. >>

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Originally Posted by Cyrus-Wallace

The problem is, we have so many classes and now we're getting 3 more jobs. So you have all the gear for them + glamour items you store/change. The amount of space that requires both crafting/gathering classes is really high. Just to mention a few things. I don't think a lot of people here use the FC chest to store their personal goods though.

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If you play 22 jobs then you still have 3 extra spaces in each armory chest slot, and unless you're running 5 different glamour sets for each class including your crafting and gathering classes then you really shouldn't have a problem in terms of space in your retainer's inventory. Instead of hoarding items senselessly maybe it would be in your best interest to take all of the gear you would never use as glamour anymore and get rid of it. If you had a unique set of non-jewelry glamours for every class then you would have 132 slots taken up and an additional 15 for potential off-hand glamours. This means that you have only 147 slots being taken up even at that extreme. As for end-game crafting, an economical player knows that materials in excess is a waste, and it is better not to hoard items that are easily bought and sold on the market board. I'm certain though that most players with full level 50s have "favorite" classes and classes that they really only play during the first few weeks that new gear comes out (if even that). I'm sure that if you enjoy the game enough that you have more than one glamour set to all of your classes, then you won't complain paying an extra $2.00 per retainer every 30 days (~$24 per year!) and support SE in further developing a game you love so much.

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Originally Posted by TitaniaZero

This is a fair reason against the paid service. Then again, this comes from SE's FFXIV payment systems. The same system that has all my ways to pay my sub locked out save through Crysta. >>

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And to be fair to them, I could pay my subscription through Crysta and hire retainers that way. I do however think that it's an unnecessary extra step to go purchase a separate card to redeem a virtual currency only usable through Square-Enix and that can't be transferred to any other payment system, where unused Crysta (unspent money) will rot away in my account unless I buy more of it. It's locking me into a secondary currency that shouldn't even be necessary in the first place.

But that's on me. I could fix my problem with Crysta, and maybe someday I'll get fed up enough and do it. I just don't think I should have to.

Edit: fixed redundancy.