4 Star Master Books - Completely frustrating and unfun.

Ok, bro! You're the best with your 49% lucky synth and Im an absolute nobody. I get out of here fast!

Funny how there were 20+ posts during the first week of patch with people asking how to get the masterbooks and how to get the 4 stars and you were nowhere to be seen at that time, but now you are some sort of super crafter. lol its like those traders on trading forums always boosting how much money they make when they win, but you never hear or see them when they lose money.

But I get out here fast now masta. You obviously crafting god with your 49% lucky synth. I aint worthy.

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Originally Posted by Truedragon

Lol@you for talking smack to me.

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You must feel threatened if you took any of that as talking smack. I don't know how it was on Odin but on Lamia, we all stacked philo mats, myth mats, matercraft, oaknots and FC3's before the patch. I hit 4 star on weaver on day one, had most my supra's from before the patch and made my artisans culottes on my first try. Granted i melded my offhand wrong because i was experiment to see how much control it could take but the rotation required little to no work. I could have upgraded all of my classes on day one but i didn't see the benefit of it, instead i sold my supply of mats for a profit and slowly obtained everything at a fraction of the cost.

4* only recently started selling. Primal weapons were more popular. In fact, the crafters who hit 4 star first also ended up quitting the game first or stopped crafting, at least on my server.

Which begs the question, do you want to make a lot of big investments with small profit margins or small investments with large profit margins.

As an example, there are items that costs less than 10k to craft buying all mats from mb and sells for 100k on the board quite regularly. That's 850% mark up.

On the other hand, using you buy all the mats on the board 500k MC, 1050k Sealant, 150k rest. 1.7million for an item that you can potentially sell for 3million which won't sell any time soon at around a 76% mark up assuming you made it HQ.

Now granted it can take 13-14 crafts to make the same gross profit but on the other hand; you are not putting all your eggs in one basket. So was 4 star worth it? Not when other markets are a lot easier to exploit and move a lot quicker.

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Originally Posted by Kalandros

There's no big secret and no "pioneering" I didn't look for info on 4 star rotations, I went with what I knew of making the master books and adjusted.

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But how many people looked for info on how to make the hand-in items for the master 2 books? xD

Most crafters were gated by these books and before all the online guides, there were hardly any 4* crafters in comparison.

To be fair "Truedragon" is a very good crafter and has been selling these items since week one.

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Originally Posted by scarebearz

To be fair "Truedragon" is a very good crafter and has been selling these items since week one.

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Does not allow him to act the way he's acting, such attitude doesn't belong in here.

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Originally Posted by Kalandros

Does not allow him to act the way he's acting, such attitude doesn't belong in here.

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Asking for handouts and making things easier cause its too hard doesn't belong here either. Oh I forgot, this is the NA section of the OF, so business as usual.

Crafting 3/4* is in a good place. I heard rumors about a 'token' system for crafter gear come 3.0.. now if that is the gate that prevents you from getting all crafts to be capable of the latest synths, THAT is a real problem.

Not sure who asked for handouts, I started this thread to complain that the Master Book II requirements were frustrating to do, and I've done all of them. All 8 books are mine.
But RNG is just not fun.

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Originally Posted by Kalandros

Not sure who asked for handouts, I started this thread to complain that the Master Book II requirements were frustrating to do, and I've done all of them. All 8 books are mine.
But RNG is just not fun.

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Posted on 12-20-2014 06:16 AM:

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Originally Posted by Kalandros

Way to go square enix for ruining crafting that way.

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Well congratulations on all your master books after everyone and their moms mapped everything for you and leaked everything online. But who am I. I get out here fast now. I just a little noob.

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Originally Posted by xPeAcEx

4* only recently started selling. Primal weapons were more popular. In fact, the crafters who hit 4 star first also ended up quitting the game first or stopped crafting, at least on my server.
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Now granted it can take 13-14 crafts to make the same gross profit but on the other hand; you are not putting all your eggs in one basket. So was 4 star worth it? Not when other markets are a lot easier to exploit and move a lot quicker.

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On Coeurl, this is not the case at all. I and others have, and still are, selling 4 star daily. I have sold, on the MB, 5 foragers body HQ in the last week alone. 3 sealant (750k) everything else was obtained from desynthing at a profit. Sold them all for 2.98mil each.

When one 4 star item becomes saturated, you just move to another. I gave away 15mil to FC mates for Christmas, and have made that back within a week. 4 star was definitely worth it for me.

Maybe it's just the market for DoH/DoW gear is more sustainable than the DoW/DoM. I just got my BSM and ARM 4* book, but I highly doubt it'll be profitable. I'm on a smaller server and there isn't much interest in getting crafted combat gear that requires melds when they could get more easily obtained tome gear.

That being said my first book, BSM, took a lot of fail. The second one, ARM, I got in with 3 out of 4. The most difficult part of doing these is patience. It's pretty tedious to just reclaim dozens of times to get an optimal condition and you could always just got shafted on the reclaim. Then again I could still be doing something wrong as I've only gotten 2 out of 8.