so wich class/job shares a gearset with rog/ninja?

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Originally Posted by Sove92

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That's great and all but as of right now dexterity only effects physical ranged damage. Unless 2.4 changes how dexterity works I don't understand how this will benefit a melee class.

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Originally Posted by Chambers

That's great and all but as of right now dexterity only effects physical ranged damage. Unless 2.4 changes how dexterity works I don't understand how this will benefit a melee class.

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They only need to really change the tooltip, tanks and DRG have ranged attacks that are based on STR, not DEX. The stat used for damage is simply based on the class or weapon, the tooltips can say whatever they want.

So you believe that they're going to swap the tooltips for STR and DEX just for ninja?

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Originally Posted by Chambers

So you believe that they're going to swap the tooltips for STR and DEX just for ninja?

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Or, has another has said, add a simple line:

'And dual wield damage'

Considering the catagory of twinblades can be their own damage.

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Originally Posted by Mardel

I almost agree with both of you except:
1st pic left to right:

Monk/NIN ------ PLD/WAR ------ DRG

2nd pic left to right

WHM/SCH ------ BRD ------ BLM/SMN

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Agreed, the middle one on the second picture looks more pirate like, so I would guess Bard. And the 1st and 3rd one are color swaps / mirror of the same skin pretty much which they did alot in the past with Healer / Caster gear.

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Originally Posted by Eidolon

Or, has another has said, add a simple line:

'And dual wield damage'

Considering the catagory of twinblades can be their own damage.

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Why though?

Whats the difference between twin blades and single blade, they're both being used with one hand so your not putting more strength into one than the other. All this change to dex is just gonna make the tooltips be subject to debate, so whats the point?

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Originally Posted by Eidolon

Or, has another has said, add a simple line:

'And dual wield damage'

Considering the catagory of twinblades can be their own damage.

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Ninja will be a much of a "duel wield class" as monk already is and monk is strength.

They hinted at maybe needing something leveled to 10 by that and skills at that level from other jobs I would go with mnk or archer, mnk being the most likely.

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Originally Posted by JakzChurchill

Why though?

Whats the difference between twin blades and single blade, they're both being used with one hand so your not putting more strength into one than the other. All this change to dex is just gonna make the tooltips be subject to debate, so whats the point?

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The short answer is, "It makes sense."

The long answer is: You don't need a lot of strength to inflict damage with daggers, you need to know where to poke. Axes, Books, Fists etc. will all inflict more damage the harder you hit with them but a dagger can only go in so deep and can only be effective in so many locations just like an arrow. The game formula is also very accepting. We see STR/DEX influencing Attack Power for every weapon at a 1:1 ratio. All physical damaging abilities use Attack Power in their equation, not STR/DEX. This change was introduced after the ARR beta because MRD/GLA/LNC ranged attacks were calculated with DEX because they are ranged attacks. Since those classes main stat is STR their ranged attacks did next to no damage. This is when they added Attack Power and had all damage scale with this instead of STR/DEX. It's just a flip of the switch to make a weapon STR or DEX based. Ninja is dextrous, agile, precision, sneaky job, the TV trope would assign DEX to it. Tool tips just need to be rewritten to state what weapons' Attack Power is raised by STR/DEX instead of the broad "dex = ranged attacks" which simply isn't true anymore.

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Originally Posted by Wobble

They hinted at maybe needing something leveled to 10 by that and skills at that level from other jobs I would go with mnk or archer, mnk being the most likely.

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When they said you need something at level 10 it was because you can't start the game as a Rogue, so you need to hit level 10 in order to unlock classes.