20% Coil Buff Not Being Implemented???

easy, nto easy, whatever, the point is what happened to it? That's all.

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Originally Posted by Mergadeth

We beat it last night finally. The issues we have and still need to tweak are mostly people not paying attention and not actual difficulties with the mechanics. Distractions kill :P

It was just me and a BLM left standing at the end though >.< here's to doing better next time.

I mean, look at how happy my char was....
http://i.imgur.com/SonGON3.png

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That is not a face I need to see when eating oatmeal. YOU NEARLY KILLED ME! :D

face=Bardtard

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Originally Posted by Mergadeth

My FC is pretty close to beating it for the first time and while we don't NEED the extra buff it would help. I don't want to get any father behind on content :3

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Ahem.. so.. because YOUR FC hasn't beaten it yet, they should go with the 20% Echo buff.. but you don't NEED it.. *but you still haven't beat it yet.

Confusing much? Two things here:

1- Lots of people got it done without ECHO, never been told it would be a thing someday, they swallowed the pill, and voila.
2- If your FC is having difficulty with the 15% Buff.. I would suggest to gear up, or ask LS friends that made it to help you, giving you tips about some phases.. perhaps watching a vid since you already viewed it once..

I agree it's very nice to feel like you completed all what the game has to offer.. we are almost done ourselves. From what you are saying, Second Coil is just around the corner for you.. don't give up: go at it, over and over, everyone will learn the mechanics and adapt.. to the point the ECHO buff won't be needed, and you will even think it was silly in the first place to have it.

Best Wishes on your completion.

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Originally Posted by KingOfAbyss

Ahem.. so.. because YOUR FC hasn't beaten it yet, they should go with the 20% Echo buff.. but you don't NEED it.. *but you still haven't beat it yet.

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But we did beat it. See my earlier thread post here. Im not sure how you got that interpretation from what i was saying either. It's pretty simple, I was saying it would have been nice to have an extra 5% but i was being positive and saying i was sure we didn't need it to succeede. And we didn't! Hooray! However, it may have given us just a bit more breathing room is all. By no means do i expect SE to cater to my FC specifically either.

I mean, sure, I could dig this hole with a bigger shovel but the medium one i have now will do just fine...just might take a bit more effort.

Buff or no buff the win still felt good. Some part of me wishes we could have been one of the groups to down her before the echo....it is what it is.

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Originally Posted by Mergadeth

We beat it last night finally. The issues we have and still need to tweak are mostly people not paying attention and not actual difficulties with the mechanics. Distractions kill :P

It was just me and a BLM left standing at the end though >.< here's to doing better next time.

I mean, look at how happy my char was....
http://i.imgur.com/SonGON3.png

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Looks like the expression of someone who had their tail stepped on.
Grats on the win, i'm looking for mine soon.

I myself am curious about the delay in the echo buff. I don't need it, but I'd like to be able to help out some friends and ls mates that haven't beaten the content yet.

Pft, 20%? ... now we are on 15% and most Instances are more challenging than Coil1-5 anymore...

honestly, I am no friend of Echo...

Don't think it's needed. Even in turn 5, if you're wiping, it's almost certainly due to not understanding or obeying the mechanics (dive bomb, twister, conflag, dreadknight, etc). Any party that is wiping right now that can't get it down wouldn't really be helped by the echo, because DPS requirements/healing are not the problem.

More HP/healing will not save you from twister, dive bomb will likely just wreck everyone (have to hit twice still), conflag will still just kill the person inside, etc.

The damage increase might help on conflags/dreadknights/snakes, but if you STILL are not meeting the DPS checks that exist on these even after all this echo, again, you either aren't playing properly or not understanding the mechanics; more echo won't help.

For those of you wondering, the 20% echo along with fantasia, and the continuation of the relic quest will be implemented in patch 2.28 which we won't get until sometime past May 24th as that is when the live letter will take place. http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...a727489f63a43c

If you scroll down, one of the topics is patch 2.28. As live letters always discuss future content, piece it together.