PSA Regarding Big Pulls

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Originally Posted by Titor

As a healer I have no problem with, and even like, big pulls. It's so boring to toss one heal off, afk for 30 seconds until another heal is needed.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHoNWwhzh3M

BOOOOOOOOO!

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Originally Posted by Lucke

Though, as a PLD, I would much rather have a BRD/??? than a ???/??? for ballad. WARs can prolly survive without a BRD.

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Paladins don't need a bard to survive. I'd like to know the reason you think that.

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Originally Posted by Shaone

PSA regarding Monk

I've been noticing more and more people claiming that Monk can't do good AoE. Yet the damage a good Monk can put out in AoE situations where there are 3 minutes of downtime between pulls, such as Brayflox exceeds other jobs except for Black Mage (and the difference there is not as much as you would think, if Foe Requiem is not available). If you're not a monk, don't just assume that we can't handle big pulls.

However, there are many Monks who have been told their job can't AoE well, and thus never realised their true potential.


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This guy gets it.

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Originally Posted by RickXRolled

This guy gets it.

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Yes. I've seen monks rock this better then a mediocre BLM.

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Originally Posted by infinitezero

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHoNWwhzh3M

BOOOOOOOOO!




Paladins don't need a bard to survive. I'd like to know the reason you think that.

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Never said PLD "need" ballad, just that's it's nice to have.

The only "real" AoE tool PLD has is Flash. RoH doesn't count. So, logically, to take and maintain aggro on a bunch of mobs would require massive use of flash to keep aggro from Flare-ing BLM. Flash is hard on PLD limited MP pool. Ballad helps by allowing the PLD to non-stop spam flash, or at least slow the use of MP so the AoEers can kill the mobs before the PLD runs out of MP.

And don't even tell me to tab target and switch targets during an aggro combo. That doesn't work when fighting 10+ mobs, sorry.

I've done fine with no BRDs countless times. Just that I'll have to use Riot Blade a couple times to get more MP for flash.

ATTN:

we have a back seat tank in the building

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Originally Posted by Lucke

Never said PLD "need" ballad, just that's it's nice to have.

The only "real" AoE tool PLD has is Flash. RoH doesn't count. So, logically, to take and maintain aggro on a bunch of mobs would require massive use of flash to keep aggro from Flare-ing BLM. Flash is hard on PLD limited MP pool. Ballad helps by allowing the PLD to non-stop spam flash, or at least slow the use of MP so the AoEers can kill the mobs before the PLD runs out of MP.

And don't even tell me to tab target and switch targets during an aggro combo. That doesn't work when fighting 10+ mobs, sorry.

I've done fine with no BRDs countless times. Just that I'll have to use Riot Blade a couple times to get more MP for flash.

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Your line from before "WARs can prolly survive without a BRD." makes the implication that paladins can't. Another thing, don't just assume what I was gonna tell you, and don't take an honest question so damn personally. Was just gonna say "Riot Blade". You'd be better off with your bard focusing on dealing damage or buffing the black mage rather than regenerating your MP when you have an ability that allows you to do it yourself.

NOTE: None of the above is a personal attack on you, so relax.

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Originally Posted by alhandra

ATTN:

we have a back seat tank in the building

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ATTN: We have a "Like" fisher contributing nothing to the discussion in the building.

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Originally Posted by infinitezero

ATTN: We have a "Like" fisher contributing nothing to the discussion in the building.

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is that a thing? who the hell cares about likes on this page? this isnt facebook lol

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Originally Posted by alhandra

is that a thing? who the hell cares about likes on this page? this isnt facebook lol

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Who the hell cares about likes on Facebook? lol

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Originally Posted by infinitezero

Your line from before "WARs can prolly survive without a BRD." makes the implication that paladins can't. Another thing, don't just assume what I was gonna tell you, and don't take an honest question so damn personally. Was just gonna say "Riot Blade". You'd be better off with your bard focusing on dealing damage or buffing the black mage rather than regenerating your MP when you have an ability that allows you to do it yourself.

NOTE: None of the above is a personal attack on you, so relax.




ATTN: We have a "Like" fisher contributing nothing to the discussion in the building.

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Wasn't my intention. Professional wordsmith I am not. And I didn't take it as a personal attack, I was defending my point.

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Originally Posted by Zhi

If you need 3 minutes in between pulls then either there's clearly not enough aoe damage or you dps bosses slow

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By downtime I just mean "non-mega-aoe-time"... like boss fights and setting up next pull... 3 mins between pulls is reasonable if there is just 1 pull per boss, and you can still get sub-5 min for first 2 Bray bosses, since the PB timer is up when you enter, and has time to charge during boss fight and getting next pull set up and building stacks.

So, just to be clear, 3 minutes is the Perfect Balance timer, this is the peak damage point of a Monk AoE rotation, and is the same timer as Convert on Black Mage, which is kinda necessary for that job to maximise AoE damage too.

(edit: the biggest mistake for Monk AoE is to build stacks with Perfect Balance->Rockbreaker, which not only massively gimps the damage, and also reduces the number you can perform while is up... so Monks, if you want to go longer, harder and have a more satisfying climax, then I suggest getting your Rocks off once you are fully greased up.... foreplay is important, don't leave it out)