Punishing the wrong people.

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Originally Posted by bardaboo

That would be horrible. TANK : this party sucks. Imma not use flash and get us kiled so I can leave. Wipe. Wipe. Wipe. See ya later! Troll central.

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this,,, yesterday healer in df titan hm sulked cause some1 said its her fault we died cause she wouldnt heal after tulmor so the next two runs she didnt heal at all then goes ur gonna blame me for ur deaths now aswel? i mean seriously ._.'''''' kinda obvious what the response was lol

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Originally Posted by Zetsumei_Tsunarashi

The whole point of the timer is to discourage people from ragequiting just because the party sucks.

It's supposed to make you stick with it, learn to work together and fix your mistakes.

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Damned if its not working too. Leveled my DRG through AV exclusively recently 47 right through 50. Had new Tanks, Healers and sometimes both at once. No one rage quit. 15 wipes on Coincounter and no one said a bad word to anyone. Timing out several runs at the Miser herself with nothing but sad farewells and compliments.

Wish we had a way to vote to increase the timer.

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Originally Posted by Pesmergia

With the 30 minute debuff on leaving the dungeon party. The reason people leave is because the party sucks. Not because the party is good. And at least 75% of the time it is not the person leaving.

Why even increase the timer? Dumb idea.

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They increased it cause the previous wait time wasn't discouraging people from playing like you do. If it were up to me, quitting would give you a 24 hour timer and remove Duty Roulette as an option until you go 1 week without quitting. That would cut the crap really fast and force people to actually start what they finish, instead of bailing cause you don't have the communication skills to help out those who don't know what to do or who are doing things wrong.

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Originally Posted by Cegiana

They increased it cause the previous wait time wasn't discouraging people from playing like you do. If it were up to me, quitting would give you a 24 hour timer and remove Duty Roulette as an option until you go 1 week without quitting. That would cut the crap really fast and force people to actually start what they finish, instead of bailing cause you don't have the communication skills to help out those who don't know what to do or who are doing things wrong.

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Yay, finally a person with a clue. /hug

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Originally Posted by Spawnie

then make ur own premade team n do the dungeons that way.. majority of df users use it for experience n to learn lol its not for pros to abuse n treat newer less experienced players like rubbish... which sadly.... u see way to often <.<

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You don't go into a dungeon not knowing what to do, and expect someone to explain everything and carry you. It takes a matter of 5 minutes to watch a video guide on youtube.

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Originally Posted by Cegiana

They increased it cause the previous wait time wasn't discouraging people from playing like you do. If it were up to me, quitting would give you a 24 hour timer and remove Duty Roulette as an option until you go 1 week without quitting. That would cut the crap really fast and force people to actually start what they finish, instead of bailing cause you don't have the communication skills to help out those who don't know what to do or who are doing things wrong.

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That would be retarded. I've been in hopeless groups with all dps with ilvl 40 sitting on less than 2.7k hp, with zero DL gear that cannot even kill the first boss, even knowing the strat and explaining it 10 times, and wiping 9 times. Some groups simply cannot get it done because of a combination of horrible gear AND no skill.

I was in a group with a ilvl 80 monk that was doing less dps than my BLM who was ilvl 55 and no relic, the monk was pulling dps more like an ilvl 45-50 and was sitting in the wrong stance after being told he did nothing. Couldn't get past wall, he never used LB, he was attacking bees, so after the 2nd attempt, I told the BLM to target the mnks target and just kill it, still wiped. The mnk kept getting knocked off by repel, or was getting the heavy+slow debuff from the shadow ground move which basically doubles your GCD, and was pulling even worse dps than he already was.

And no I do not leave after 1 wipe, I always stay and explain, and sometimes wipe upwards of 5-7 times before calling it. How would you know what I do? You have never even grouped with me troll.

lol 24 hour penalty for quiiters is to much but 30mins isnt enough.... i think a 2 hour penalty is a better 1 for the quitters ;/

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Originally Posted by Spawnie

lol 24 hour penalty for quiiters is to much but 30mins isnt enough.... i think a 2 hour penalty is a better 1 for the quitters ;/

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Nah. Set it to the remaining time in the instance, plus ten minutes.

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Originally Posted by Cegiana

They increased it cause the previous wait time wasn't discouraging people from playing like you do. If it were up to me, quitting would give you a 24 hour timer and remove Duty Roulette as an option until you go 1 week without quitting. That would cut the crap really fast and force people to actually start what they finish, instead of bailing cause you don't have the communication skills to help out those who don't know what to do or who are doing things wrong.

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So tell me then what do you do on the eight wipe on the first boss of HM copperbell because the tank refuses to move out of the fire? When they have been told after every single wipe and they still dont understand that fire is bad you cant help them and you cant finish it. There are also times when something unexpected comes up and you have to leave, its not right to heavily punish people when things like that happen.

I will stay and help people who are new and/ or willing to be taught. I will not stick with a group or even a person, who can't accept criticism, insists that they know the fight yet is the cause of many wipes and constantly yells "GO GO GO!."

On a related note though, I'm doing dungeons to farm tomes which means I'd ideally want to finish as fast as possible, but I'm willing to take a little extra time to help others and make the run go smoothly. I'm not really willing to waste an entire 90 minutes in a dungeon that should take at MOST 20-25 because of a/ a few people who can't play for whatever reason.

There's a happy medium there, and I don't think I'm a bad person for wanting to use my limited play time in the most efficient way possible and be somewhat insistent that people learn to play.