Dear Healers that don't DPS in dungeons

At the moment my Scholar is my highest level job at 40, together with Summoner. And I have a Whitemage sitting at level 36. So all this end game stuff is still pretty far away for me. Altoholic and slowpoke leveler :D

Anyways, when doing dungeons I'll cast DOT's on the (hopefully) marked mob, and if the other party members health permits some ruins/stones depending on the job I'm playing. However should the tank take a lot of damage. Then I'll heal first and DOT second :)

This tactic worked fine so far :)

Choosing to heal and cast no hostile spells as a healer is not poor play. I guess I come from MMOs where healers actually heal. If the content people are forced to run is so trivial that this is actually expected as good play, and good play is not defined as actually using skilled healing through progression, then I'd say I'd jump ship but I bounced a while back.

Do we really have to have this debate again for a third time in what's basically a recruitment thread?

If a tank/free company wants healing-only healers to join up that's their business, when you're playing in a static party your main priority is whatever makes the run most enjoyable for your group.

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Originally Posted by Toystore

Choosing to heal and cast no hostile spells as a healer is not poor play. I guess I come from MMOs where healers actually heal. If the content people are forced to run is so trivial that this is actually expected as good play, and good play is not defined as actually using skilled healing through progression, then I'd say I'd jump ship but I bounced a while back.

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I too come from MMOs where only healing is the best play or the only play. But this game is different. A healer that doesn't do anything when healing is not needed is a bad player.

That is fair

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Originally Posted by Maku

I too come from MMOs where only healing is the best play or the only play. But this game is different. A healer that doesn't do anything when healing is not needed is a bad player.

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There's never not something to do, really, in these dungeons. And if you're speed running them, I really don't see how you can DPS anyway during that. I'm way too busy healing the snot out of the tank.

It's funny because the White Mage quest is all about how they are healers, and that's their role. Sure, you use Stone and Aero to damage things during the events, but the flavor text is all about healing. :D

So I guess that means you'll take a healer for Twintania that dpses in AK but can't heal progression for crap versus a healer that doesn't DPS in AK and is really good at doing their job where it counts.

Before you scream false dilemma on that, what you're essentially arguing is mastery vs. performance, and I can turn it around on you and say if the dungeon is completed, who cares whether the healer was DPSing or not. It's about mastery, not performing objectives right? Therefore the good healer is the one that shows mastery over non-trivial content. And to pre-empt your final argument, no it's not the one that shows mastery over difficult progression and dpses in AK, hard content skill disparity doesn't work that way. The guy who is in the 0.01% of healers on progression is your good healer whether or not he dpses AK. But you can totally take the guy that's in the top 10% of healers that you KNOW dpses AK, since they're both masters at raid healing, this guy is better right?

Thank you for that insightful comment. Clearly this game deserves healers like you. I'll be playing progression raiding in something where my value is not insulted by how well I don't heal.

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Originally Posted by Toystore

So I guess that means you'll take a healer for Twintania that dpses in AK but can't heal progression for crap versus a healer that doesn't DPS in AK and is really good at doing their job where it counts.

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You made absolutely no sense.

Eh it's a little harder on WHMs...but when I stick foe req. up on BRD, I expect you to DPS. You're sitting at full MP anyways.

As a SCH, if you don't DPS, why not just go WHM? 95% of the ones I've come across are just pure garbage (this thread has quite a few good examples).

Cleric > swiftcast shadowflare > multidot > bane takes care of everything and adds insane mitigation due to the slowing component of shadowflare.

Want to see something interesting? Go watch our Twin kill. Guess what our healer does several times throughout the fight? DPSs. Do you see something interesting at the end? Maybe the 2nd aetheric profusion that's about to go off? Now what would have happened if the SCH hadn't done some DPS when it was that close? I don't think the tank died at all so clearly he's able to do healing and DPSing at the same time.

But if you wish to be mediocre, that's fine.