Why are you not a tank?

Post 44 I had a lot of issues.
Watched some video, Learned my hate control a lot better.
Rarely loss hate now.

The problem with tank classes in most MMOs is that it can often feel more like you're fighting your party than the actual mobs. For both tanks and healers, when other people aren't doing their jobs correctly, you end up picking up the slack.

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Originally Posted by BlueMage

The problem with tank classes in most MMOs is that it can often feel more like you're fighting your party than the actual mobs. For both tanks and healers, when other people aren't doing their jobs correctly, you end up picking up the slack.

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FFXIV feels the an extreme version of this. I have spent almost a decade tanking in many MMOs and loved it. I hate it in this game... Started hating it on titan(story) when my job was to stand there and watch everyone die.

I'd consider Tank classes in this game, the one that requires the most pre-planning out of them when it comes to late game dungeons. More critically so for HM Dungeons. If you do plan to tank, I'd be prepared to look into a dungeon before you do it. It'll make the process more smoother, and you won't have to worry about anything else other than DPS's or the healer going full derp on you.

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Originally Posted by Sephirah

I couldn't tell you. Despite all the frustration and grief that we catch sometimes, I love it.

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Personally I have only gotten grief about tanking once in the 2 months I have been playing the game.

BRD got mad because I was not used to playing WAR after playing PLD for 2 weeks, did my combos wrong, started with the wrong combo, having a bad day and decided to wipe last boss on AK since the positioning was altered. In retrospect positioning is something that could have easily been fixed. We also had a not so pleasant conversation being from the same server and all, but the way I acted after we finished and talked to each other was worse than anyone played.

Always regret it, wish I could take it back, they probably think that I was not being sincere when I apologized for my behavior.

Sometimes I wonder if players really do treat tanks poorly though, because I just never get it. People always say tanking is a thankless job as well, and I mean while I am not praised for what I do in every group, I have received some praise every now and then.

I Tank because on top of the dps in this game being fragile, I really do not enjoy playing Dragoon because of it's positional requirements and have heard Monks are worse about them.

But there are MMOs where I have chosen not to play a tank and am strongly opposed to playing one. The reasons are as follows.

It's too easy.
I don't really feel like I am contributing as a tank.

The reasons why I think other players do not play a tank are as follows.

Because they don't want to play a tank.

Because while what a tank does is critical to success, at a basic level it is nothing spectacular. Tanks are expected to be able to fulfill basic expectations like holding aggro.

Tanks are expected to be experienced players that can lead a group to success.

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Originally Posted by Rochetm

FFXIV feels the an extreme version of this. I have spent almost a decade tanking in many MMOs and loved it. I hate it in this game... Started hating it on titan(story) when my job was to stand there and watch everyone die.

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I'd recommend trying off tanking then when you hit the raid dungeons, if you want to go so far with the class at that point. Your job requires a bit more activity, and less standing around as an off tank.

I took both tanks to 35 before I chose Warrior as my main tank because I enjoyed its storyline more and back then tanking was actually fun.. There then is a steep curve that begins at Stone Vigil and continues into endgame.. and it just wasnt fun anymore, i may or may not get PLD up now to see if I like that any better but I find with having a main job as healer and now a tank at 50, I should just go DPS lol

OT'ing Turn 4 has been the worst experence I have had so far in my FFXIV Tanking career. So much moving around, trying to keep your MP up for the next wave grabbing all the adds. Just a total pain.

Laptop user. No room to upgrade video card despite it exceeding the requirements for this game in reality it can't hack it... I just plain don't see AoE and targeting rings till after they've already hit me... Can't afford to be the tank.

I simply like seeing everything, easy as that. for the same reason I don't like doing melee dps (ok that's not entirely true. I like to .solo. on thief/ninja-like classes)

it's really why I love healing the most. I .do. like the 'stress' of added responsibility and I guess I can 'step up' to leading if need be, but I still have the entire battle infront of me and can see these things easily. same with ranged dps. it's really the two things that are the most fun for me. give me a ranged tank (like something that SWTOR 'sort of' tried with the vanguard/powertech) and I'll tank for you :P