Dragoons: A Rotation Reborn

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Originally Posted by Dervy

How do you guys handle the phase change between p1 & p2 on T11 btw? (transition to adds)

Do you guys move over to the right side of the boss at around 61% and prepare for the phase change (and put up DoTs)? Because in all honesty, I hate how there's a 2-3 second downtime between the transition and even more so when you hit 60% and the boss decides to say "Hey, screw you Dervy for doing too much DPS, I'm gunna do a nerve gas rotation trollolol" and my DPS goes to complete shit :(.

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Moving to the right side at 61-62% seems like the better idea, depending on what is going on with the boss rotation. That being said, I normally have enough time regardless of the rotation. The very moment the boss drops to 62% I keep a close eye on the chat and when the phase change is noticed and the three little adds appear I slide on the right side (I normally sit on the left flank). The lightning cage does not appear instantly upon phase change (which is when the adds/message appear), but only after she (she?) does the last attack and then goes to the center turning south. Until then, you can still DPS. I don't remember the downtime being so "long".

I hang front-right before that transition. Minimal downtime, sure, but more importantly it's the least dangerous spot.

re: transition.

You can keep dpsing the boss until he becomes untargetable and there shouldn't be any danger of getting oneshot by the barofield/shield as long as you move out after. Just fight normally and rotate around the boss to get as close to the add spawning location as possible to minimise downtime.

If he transitions mid nerve gas - you just get more time to dps the boss. not a big deal - he'll still be targetable until the transition actually takes place.

I've been working on t13 a couple weeks now and I'm still trying to find the best way to get my full burst off properly if I get targeted and have to move for the megaflare circles (yay if I don't get anything or only have to swing round into the stack) ..has anyone got any tips for me please?

The way my group does it, it's a dance of heading into the stack if I have to get out of the big circles, then back out if I don't have a small circle. It's a little involved, but I have practice at it.

I probably wouldn't have to do that if we had a different plan for baiting the big circles (I've seen some groups stack a melee on MT, and I've seen some groups bait one directly underneath Bahamut--either of these can help make sure one of the sides other than the stack point remains safe).

For Dervy and t11, the guys covered up pretty everything. It depends on your DPS to say when the phase will shift, but keep in mind that, if a Nerve Gas started, she will do the full rotation (till Second Head) before move to the center and drop the shield. I usually stay on her left flank on 1st phase, then end up in back/right flank at 62% to wait and see if she'll change the phase or just do a full rotation. Just keep in mind that, if your tanks mess the pull a little bit, she may move in a "strange" way to the center of the room, and if you are close in this moment, you may get into the Barofield and screw your 2nd phase start.


For t13 initial burst, I have a lot of trouble with my tanks too. If I'm feeling lucky with my latency, I'll drop the circle on left flank (my position), go to the stack point, wait the red circle resolve and come back to my place befor ppl come to stack (or at least before the damage). If i'm with latency problems, I'll just get into Bahamut on wichever space I can get and then come back. When I go inside Bahamut hit box, I may eventually miss an auto-atack, but at least I can keep my rotation up. On the last scenario (ppl come drunk to raid), I'll run back, miss my skill but keep alive (and sad). Everything assuming I got the red circle but not the stack mark, of course.

About Earthshaker, I read mentions of Paladins using Cover on melees during P1. Did I get that wrong or is it possible, considering the amount of damage before and after Earthshaker? Is it to increase uptime or decrease damage taken, mainly?

Hello guys. First time writing here hehe. I have just few questions. What rotation you use in t12 ? I must do something wrong, cuz my damage is not so high how should be. And what rotation is in your opinion best for p3 - add phase?
Thanks for all tips and help.

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Originally Posted by ColdestHeaven

About Earthshaker, I read mentions of Paladins using Cover on melees during P1. Did I get that wrong or is it possible, considering the amount of damage before and after Earthshaker? Is it to increase uptime or decrease damage taken, mainly?

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Cover on another member not only gives the damage the Covered person would take to PLD, it also stops the sludge puddles from forming on either PLD or the melee. Very useful, though in truth DRG is one of the last guys who should get Cover. My group only Covers DRG on the second Earthshaker if no one better to be Covered got targeted in set 1 or 2.

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Originally Posted by Sparhawk6

Hello guys. First time writing here hehe. I have just few questions. What rotation you use in t12 ? I must do something wrong, cuz my damage is not so high how should be. And what rotation is in your opinion best for p3 - add phase?
Thanks for all tips and help.

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I'll just semi-quote myself from a while back.

T12's basically training dummy for DRG. All you can really do P1/P2 beyond just dummy is make sure first Bennu gets hit by DFD and possibly multi-DoT Bennus. Add phase just attack each big bird starting fresh, HT > CT > Phleb priority like normal, if you have very high DPS you can just multi-DoT a bit and start your rotation over on the next bird in line to die. Try to make sure you have DFD up for this phase, if you have the choice between using it right before add phase or throttling it a little, throttle it. Don't use B4B if your stacks get incredibly high (should be able to survive 12~ stacks with B4B if topped off, don't B4B after this for sure) but in general you can use it without abandon, DRG should be one of the last to die in 2.45 (used to be the first and only guy in i110 ...)

Ideally in final phase they won't make you do fountain, and it's just more dummy at that point.

Thanks guys I will try the stack dance tonight ;D