We need more ways to make gold in this game.

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Originally Posted by Promethevs

repairs at a merchant also took about the same amount of gil(which is 10x the numerical value you see now)

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Except no one bothered repairing at a merchant when you had level 40+ gear, and just shouted or stood around with your flag up for some nice crafter in Ul'dah to come help repair you.

In 1.0, you got dark matter from dungeon runs, treasure chests, and other things that didn't involve spending money. By the end of 1.0, I had more than 2 stacks of G5s from running dungeons and primals. Additionally, you could request repairs for extremely cheap, never costing more than 500g per item w/ a grade 5 dark matter. That's only 50g currently.

In 2.0, the only way you can repair items are through NPCs or buying dark matter. Grade 5 costs 350g each (that's old 3.5k) if you can repair your own gear, and NPC repairs cost something like 5k (old 50k) for a full set to be repaired at lv 50.

Repair bills are seriously astronomical in price now compared to 1.0. Fixing this aspect alone would improve things imo.

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Originally Posted by Kahlyn

Maybe have DM5 be the HQ off of a lower-level DM? I'm nowhere near that high, so no idea if that would be reasonable...

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I like this idea. If G5s were the HQ version of G4 from Mining or Botany, that would be more acceptable. SOMETHING where we can acquire G5s from the game that isn't from spending gil or seals.

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Originally Posted by Promethevs

Keep in mind too that in 1.0 leves gave just about the same amount of gil, and repairs at a merchant also took about the same amount of gil(which is 10x the numerical value you see now). During that time, the economy was pretty far from collapse still.

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Well yes, but there is an important difference. G5 Dark matter dropped off of a lot of the endgame things and it could be gathered. Also, you could request repair and anyone with the right job could fix your things. So really, repairs for the most part were a non issue. You could also change to a crafting class while in a dungeon and repair your stuff on the spot.

Now, dark matter 5 is a lot harder to get. You have to fork over a large amount of seals, or buy from the NPC. It can't be gathered and you can't get anyone to repair your gear so you are stuck with either leveling that craft class up or using the NPC.

So I am nearly broke now. I ran Amdapor Keep over 100x by now. The repair costs for just this week have been over 60.000.

I want to play the endgame and have fun, thus earning money while I do this so I can self-sustain.

I do not want to Craft. I do not want to gather some silly materials or go fishing - that`s not my thing. It is boring imo. I do not want to level another job to 50 just for the sake to gather Gil, which will be nontheless harder since there are barely any quests left and I`d need to Fate-Grind.

How am I supposed to survive? Why can`t you just sell items from Dungeons? In every other game you can sell/trade items from raids/dungeons in order to sustain.


Thanks SE, that`s just an invitation for gold sellers.

I ran 10 level 49 fates. My total gil income was around 900 gil (90x10). I went to repair the equipped gear, it was just around 1700.

So I am losing money at a rate of 70 gil per fate.

I crafted 100 walnut lumber, after I had gathered 300 walnut logs.

I sold the 100 walnut lumber to NPC for 1 gil each. I made a total of 100 gil. My repair cost for botany to gather the logs and carpentry to make the lumber cost a total of around 400 gil.

I lost 300 gil crafting and I didn't buy a thing.

I did a level 44 dungeon run, smooth as silk. Total money made was just around 330 gil. My repair cost was around 800 gil.

I lost 470 gil.

So, in summary, my total net income/loss on gil for an average 3 hour play session cost me 1570 gil.

Luckily, I have over 250k gil stocked up because I am very conservative and never transport or buy anything. But at this current rate, I will COMPLETLY RUN OUT OF GIL by 160 days... that's less than half a year.

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Originally Posted by Stormbad

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Luckily, I have over 250k gil stocked up because I am very conservative and never transport or buy anything. But at this current rate, I will COMPLETLY RUN OUT OF GIL by 160 days... that's less than half a year.

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Combine this with less fiscal people, add people leaving the game after the first month, and we will be losing large chunks of gil. Not to mention once more people realize the situation less people will be buying stuff off the marketboard, and then even the crafters won't be able to make money.

Wiping on titan hm having to pay 10k repairs is fun! woot woot!

Almost 50 pages and still no reaction from SE.

Let's do this guys....
A Crying Orchestra! Let's unite and cry our hearts out... Maybe SE/Yoshi will pity us and make it so GIL will pour down from the heavens!

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Originally Posted by Airas

Let's do this guys....
A Crying Orchestra! Let's unite and cry our hearts out... Maybe SE/Yoshi will pity us and make it so GIL will pour down from the heavens!

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Very few people are demanding easy or free money.

But a positive gil flow from doing normal activities is a must or the economy WILL crash.

Why not making enemies in dungeons drop much more gil? Other than covering repair costs, it would also make dungeons worth doing for more than just speed runs, as the more enemies you kill the more gil you get.