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So, highest non-crafted I was able to come up with so far is this @ +491.853. DW Daggers scored +487.1. I've tested 4, 11, and 30(balanced) accuracy on Zeta, as well as Det/Crit, and all came up somewhere between these two.


BTW, the Zeta on Ariyala's seems off. I'm seeing an extra available point - should be 90 points instead of 91. IIRC, my Zeta is 22/30/38.


EDIT: Best one yet - 32 Acc/20 Crit/38 Det Zeta (+492.757)

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Originally Posted by treuhavik

So, highest non-crafted I was able to come up with so far is this @ +491.853 (my Zeta). DW Daggers scored +487.1. I've tested 4, 11, and 30(balanced) accuracy on Zeta, as well as Det/Crit, and all came up somewhere between these two.


BTW, the Zeta on Ariyala's seems off. I'm seeing an extra available point - should be 90 points instead of 91. IIRC, my Zeta is 22/30/38.

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91 points is possible if you go pure 2 stat. (u get another bonus stat if you go pure crit det)

does ariyala have a quick way to find out the +dex? or is that hand calculated.

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Originally Posted by treuhavik

So, highest non-crafted I was able to come up with so far is this @ +491.853 (my Zeta). DW Daggers scored +487.1. I've tested 4, 11, and 30(balanced) accuracy on Zeta, as well as Det/Crit, and all came up somewhere between these two.

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Looks good except for the Skill Speed. Firana mentioned in his recent dummy parse that 400 Skill Speed is the absolute minimum required to allow for 1 more weapon skill within the Trick Attack window. Can someone confirm?

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Originally Posted by Kikina

does ariyala have a quick way to find out the +dex? or is that hand calculated.

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It's manually calculated.

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Originally Posted by PROBOUND

Looks good except for the Skill Speed. Firana mentioned in his recent dummy parse that 400 Skill Speed is the absolute minimum required to allow for 1 more weapon skill within the Trick Attack window. Can someone confirm?

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Haven't heard anything on that. Though, now that you mention it, it's been pretty tight fitting that last AE into TA with 395 SS...

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Originally Posted by treuhavik

It's manually calculated.



Haven't heard anything on that. Though, now that you mention it, it's been pretty tight fitting that last AE into TA with 395 SS...

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Yea that's also the reason he has adjusted his opener in favor of Fuma Shuriken instead of Raiton so as to not clip that GCD allowing the AE to land with TA and XPot still up. I'm still experimenting with it but it does indeed seem to work.

Also i'm not sure if this was posted here or what the actually NIN record is currently but FoldaSaurus Rex posted a 640 about a month ago if anyone is interested in watching it. He has also since changes his opener in favor of Fuma so it could potentially be higher.

This new Fuma opener seems to be credited by many from Solitude's recent NIN Guide found here.

I see. I don't visit reddit much :(. And yeah, I hardly ever use Ration myself anymore.

If we can get some kind of confirmation on a minimum number, I'll re-test these sets. But, for now, http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/Q2KG seems to be king. Adding a 400 SS requirement should drop all these sets proportionally.

Hello fellow ninjas.

Regarding Bis, I've made a program to calculate. It doesn't take carfted gear into consideration. here is the bis :
http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/PUV2
It is supposed to be the best and uses the old stats weights. Notice that you reach the 400 skill speed cap ;)

Use the weights which I posted 1-2 pages back.

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Originally Posted by PROBOUND

Looks good except for the Skill Speed. Firana mentioned in his recent dummy parse that 400 Skill Speed is the absolute minimum required to allow for 1 more weapon skill within the Trick Attack window. Can someone confirm?

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This entirely depends on your latency. You may not need 400 SS and be able to slot in 1 more weapon skill if your latency is low enough to compensate for the missing SS.

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Originally Posted by Dervy

Use the weights which I posted 1-2 pages back.

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New bis then :
http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/Q2ZZ
Crazy Det here ;)