What's the point with that quite lackluster story in Endwalker?

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Originally Posted by aveyond-dreams

Looking back there were so many other ways that they could have gone about Venat that fans speculated about, ranging from crazed AVALANCHE environmentalist motivations to handing mankind back the reins of history like the Venat of FFXII attempted to do.

Of all these outcomes, they really did end up going with "grown up Hermoine Granger refuses to tell anyone about the major crisis about to occur, tries to do everything her way and then destroys the planet while the story props her up as a hero."

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If Venat was like Hermes on crack regarding motive even that would've been better. As much as I dislike Hermes he at least actually did something pure evil out of malice, even if that malice came out of nowhere for no good reason.

Hell, even if the sundering was an accident like I thought was a possibility I would've been happier with that.

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Originally Posted by KageTokage

I can't tell if this is sarcasm or not, but I personally appreciate the fact that more and more people are chiming in about feeling dissatisfied with how things played out since it makes me feel like less of an anomaly.



It's possible, though I feel whatever threat is in Pandemonium is going to be resolved by the time the raid is over and wouldn't be active during the original Final Days thanks to the closed time loop shenanigans.

The thing that bugs me the most is Azem's involvement in this mess suggesting they somehow knew all of this was going to happen already...

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Oh, no sarcasm. I just remember feeling gaslit at 6.0 release cause I didn't think EW was that good and everybody else seemed to love it. Yet this thread sure did get a lot of replies.... lol

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Originally Posted by GrizzlyTank

High chance that the Beast creating the scream within the planet is the source of the issues appearing within pandemonium, a beast created by ancients who were affected by meteion to propagate her will.

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Please no. I'd like to have SOME mysterious left here. I don't want another thing created by the Ancients that went wrong. That's just not interesting. And they've done that already with Meteion.

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Also guessing that the last part of Pandemonium is actually going to be in present time putting whatever remains of the beast down.

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This would be actually good and make the entire storyline relevant to the present day rather than us just going into the past to deal with something that in present time would already be dealt with. I'd rather Panda Express be about learning what the thing is, then yeah finding it's still alive in the present and on the verge of arising and wreacking havoc and so now that we know what it is we can go back to present day and stop it.

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Originally Posted by Theodric

"To ignore the plight of those one might conceivably save is not wisdom—it is indolence"

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The writers really, REALLY seem to like this line for some reason.

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Originally Posted by YukikoKurosawa

The writers really, REALLY seem to like this line for some reason.

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Because it's Louisoix catchline?

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Originally Posted by GrizzlyTank

Because it's Louisoix catchline?

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True. I just don't think it's as great of a line as the writers seem to and think they overuse it. But that's probably just me.

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Originally Posted by YukikoKurosawa

True. I just don't think it's as great of a line as the writers seem to and think they overuse it. But that's probably just me.

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Wouldn’t be the first poorly aged line. Let’s not forget Dragonsong which is confirmed to be Hydaelyn’s perspective. “Tell me why break dust. Why turn the past dust?”

Meanwhile….she breaks everyone’s trust and literally turned the past to dust and tried to keep it a secret. It’s just satire at this point it has to be. Or the writers are just this horrible.

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Originally Posted by Lustre

Oh, no sarcasm. I just remember feeling gaslit at 6.0 release cause I didn't think EW was that good and everybody else seemed to love it. Yet this thread sure did get a lot of replies.... lol

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I think the honeymoon phase is beginning to wear off now, even on sites which aren't usually particularly critical (or to be more accurate, are usually gushing with praise.)

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Originally Posted by Lauront

I think the honeymoon phase is beginning to wear off now, even on sites which aren't usually particularly critical (or to be more accurate, are usually gushing with praise.)

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I think EW is one of those stories that the longer you think about it the more it falls apart.

Like the exact opposite of Fridge Brilliance, whatever that's called.

I'm thinking there are a lot of people like myself out there who initially loved Endwalker, took everything in at face value (which is what Yoshi wanted us to do), then started to go back and look at certain aspects of the story. I've even seen people start to creep up on Reddit with criticisms. As Yukiko said, the more you think about Endwalker's story, the more it falls apart and I don't appreciate Yoshida telling us we're thinking about it too much.