Viera as the next new race~ Show your support

The Issue with the Feet is not that its complicated to make but that they would need to change every Footwear to fit, that's actually a lot of work.
Either way we will see, They will probably start dropping "some" details for the next Addon around the end of this year.

While Im not into the idea of viera getting added I dont buy it that feet are an issue for most gear. Usually in most games body parts are no longer rendered once gear is put on them to lessen strain and so should viera get added they would likely use the common practice of footwear cutting off the feet and rendering only the boots/shoes. At the very most its the sandal foot wear that would all need changing unless EVERYTHING is rendered under clothes which Id be surprised that was the case.

Guys! Important. There has been a misunderstanding. I'm just doing the raid unlock. It says minor races like the Viera. It never ever ever said beast tribe. Minor race just means not particularly numerous. But as far as we know that might also be true for the Raen. Viera are NOT a beast tribe

I was wondering why people were assuming minor race meant beast tribe. I assumed it might be a translation thing and I was missing something from the other clients.

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Originally Posted by Anarnee

I was wondering why people were assuming minor race meant beast tribe. I assumed it might be a translation thing and I was missing something from the other clients.

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Well i don't know what the original japanese text says but there is no mention of beast tribes in the english.

On the topic of their feet, it looks like the new dungeon gear boots are kinda Viera-esqe.

Also, if they DO add them, then the females better be like Roegadyn tall and the males should be shorter.

if anyone has ever seen the wolf pvp gear for BLM you'd think the thing about viera feet is a poor excuse
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/i...k3wEie6wqkVpIH

Maybe if they add Viera, they can make high heels ACTUAL high heels that make your character taller, not just shrink the length of your legs.

I see your PvP Gear and raise you the new Bonewicca Greaves!

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Originally Posted by Zeuk

I see your PvP Gear and raise you the new Bonewicca Greaves!

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yeah there has always been bone distorting armor
also everyone wheres those sandles really should just make veira sandles a bit more high in the back and the feet would work out fine

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Originally Posted by Balipu

Guys! Important. There has been a misunderstanding. I'm just doing the raid unlock. It says minor races like the Viera. It never ever ever said beast tribe. Minor race just means not particularly numerous. But as far as we know that might also be true for the Raen. Viera are NOT a beast tribe

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Neither are the Lupin as far as we are aware, but they also aren't playable

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Originally Posted by Lambdafish

Neither are the Lupin as far as we are aware, but they also aren't playable

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With the Bangaa, Lupin, Seeq, or any other creature that's not primarily "humanish" in looks would be a craaaazy undertaking to change all the gear to implement (the helmets alone would be a nightmare). Viera is a much different beast to tackle as it involves primarily only the feet and maybe the helms for bun ears, but compared to the aforementioned races, they look the most human like the other main races. Also, there is A LOT of evidence that they are working on them and even more teasers. With the bunny outfits being figured for men, the new Raid being a Moon Bun, the greaves I linked, and now Viera being added as canon in the FFXIV lore, I would honestly be surprised if they weren't added at this point.

Not to mention FFXIV's fascination for "pretty" races. XD

For those that understand Japanese, does the Minor Race mention of viera appear in the JP text? Also are the JP players making noise about it in the forums? Because lets be real here they're the ones the devs listen to more often than not.

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Originally Posted by Zeuk

the greaves I linked

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Eh. We have animal feet-styled shoes already. Making the feet isn't the problem, the problem is making every shoe in the game fit the feet.

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Originally Posted by silentwindfr

i was like you until i notice something interesting with the 4.3
: https://fr.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes.../?patch=latest

this boots are the viera feet :x

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They aren't going to maintain that aesthetic for every single of boots released, thus it's little more than a unique design and nothing indicative of Viera. Not to mention, none of the existing gear works on their model.

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Originally Posted by Zeuk

Not to mention FFXIV's fascination for "pretty" races. XD

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It has nothing to do with fascination but ease of development. The devs outright said every piece of gear is essentially stretched out to fit each specific race's propositions. You cannot accomplish that without a uniform design. Furthermore, JP, apparently, despises bestial races whereas NA is a bit more split on the idea.. Hence why Au Ra became what they are.

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Originally Posted by Lambdafish

Neither are the Lupin as far as we are aware, but they also aren't playable

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You misunderstand. Them being a beast tribe does not automatically make them playable. Buuut beast tribes being playable would be problematic to say the least. Beast tribe races would never be playable.
We know two things now:
1. Viera exist on Hydaelin.
2. There is nothing to prevent them from becoming playable.

As far as I remember, Viera is a female only race and the FFXIV staff don't want a mono-gender race.

It could have change since this declaration but I wont put a copper on the table for the viera to become playable not mentioning living outside of their forest is a big no for them at least in my lore memories from FFXII.

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Originally Posted by Nariel

As far as I remember, Viera is a female only race and the FFXIV staff don't want a mono-gender race.

It could have change since this declaration but I wont put a copper on the table for the viera to become playable not mentioning living outside of their forest is a big no for them at least in my lore memories from FFXII.

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ff11 there was two races that were gender locked
and in ff14 they became Miqote and Roe

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Originally Posted by Duskane

ff11 there was two races that were gender locked
and in ff14 they became Miqote and Roe

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Then they'll still be Viera or just generic bunny human with the viera label put on it ?

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Originally Posted by Nariel

As far as I remember, Viera is a female only race and the FFXIV staff don't want a mono-gender race.

It could have change since this declaration but I wont put a copper on the table for the viera to become playable not mentioning living outside of their forest is a big no for them at least in my lore memories from FFXII.

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Viera are not female only. There are indeed male Viera just never seen because the male Viera live in their own tribes away from the females and are more reclusive. This is said in FFXII.

Also, there is nothing stopping the development team from just making Viera barefoot for a large majority of shoes. Re-model some of the more popular sets and make all the others like leveling gear just simple straps or such. This was used for TERA's Amani feet and is actually vastly preferred to their method they use now (of squishing their big feet into tiny high heels).

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Originally Posted by Nariel

As far as I remember, Viera is a female only race and the FFXIV staff don't want a mono-gender race.

It could have change since this declaration but I wont put a copper on the table for the viera to become playable not mentioning living outside of their forest is a big no for them at least in my lore memories from FFXII.

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Though this is true back in the other games, there is already FFXIV development pics for male models (actually in the original post of this thread). Also, the Mithra used to be all female and are now part of canonical lore for the miqo'te as their ancestors in FFXIV and it can reasonably be assumed that the Galka were originally the Roegadyn's ancestors as well. It would be easy to do the same for Viera.

Edit: Looking up Tsumdere's claim about their being Viera males in the original games where they appeared confirmed it. Though only females -appeared- in the game, there have always been male Viera. The reason they never appeared in the games is due to the males being very aggressive towards females and extremely territorial.

What if they did give us viera and use ivalician moogles without the pom as males? As for the feet I think it would come down to either redesigning their feet or race locking gear for them...

Well my bad, too long since I played FFXII or any of the "Ivalice FF", then lets just hope they'll be cute !

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Originally Posted by Zeonx

Why it don't make sense to have Viera here in FFXIV.
This is against their law, referred to as the "Green Word," which forbids contact with the outside world. once a viera breaks this law, they are considered viera no more and are regarded as outcasts.

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What's interesting about that, is how XIV treats Mi'qote, who also have a similar trait. They have a very insular tribal structure, as well. Not to the extremes Viera do, but enough that our "adventurer Mi'qote" are pretty much outcasts from their tribes, too. Wouldn't be much of a stretch to apply that to Viera, since, even the Au Ra get to deal with the "outsider" mentality for our Au Ra WoL.

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Originally Posted by Zeuk

Also, there is A LOT of evidence that they are working on them and even more teasers. With the bunny outfits being figured for men, the new Raid being a Moon Bun, the greaves I linked, and now Viera being added as canon in the FFXIV lore, I would honestly be surprised if they weren't added at this point.

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Lupin was the other planned playable race when Au'ra was developed. To answer your (stretched) points: bunny outfits for men have been requested for years and has nothing to do with Viera, the primal is NOT a moon bunny, and even if she was that is a huge leap to make, and the greaves are player designed as part of a gear design contest, the outfit was not designed by the developers. As for Viera being added to the lore, I think that if they left them out when seeq, bangaa and all the other ivalice races were mentioned, people would still be like OMG THEY MUST BE SAVING THEM TO BE A RACE NEXT EXPANSION, as it stands they are just another Ivalice race in a long line of non playable races (until such a time that there is any proof otherwise, and I mean actual proof, not the list you provided).

I WANT THIS SO BAAAD!!!
Please give me the Vieras SQUARE ENIX!!!

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Very much want, this would be one of the first outfits I would put on

Dude, im reading this post from beginning to end, and I'm realizing every post you made is just so...disgusting and spiteful. The hell is your problem? Take the stick out your butt.

I read every single post, THAT'S HOW DEDICATED I AM TO VIERA!
Some of you people gainst Viera are crazy, not in the sense of "I'm a Viera supporter, you're opinion is invalid" more like in the sense of "Why are you so mad bro? Did you read your own comment before posting it?" And "Wow, momma didn't raise a smart lad"

...What on earth is going on in this thread anymore....:confused:

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Who wouldn't want vieras in the bunny suit with the ears on while failing jutsus with dwarf bunny minion

I'd love to play Viera, more so if they use something close to the XII models and show us the finished concept for the males. We really don't need more shorties, I think; and with Rabanastre and it's history as well as a clear line of character familiarity from XII already in the picture it would make the most sense to go closer to that established and well loved look and race aesthetic/lore than to go left field and turn the highly environ-attuned woodland mystics into walking plushies and or kawaii anime body pillow wannabes on two legs. Feels like that would be a huge regression for the Veira if they went that way.

I feel like I have to comment on the meh towards Roe females though. A lot of the bias I see against them both in forums and in game has more to do with players who play them than the race itself. Very sad folks don't know or recognize the difference between those two things but eh.

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I'd love to play Viera, more so if they use something close to the XII models and show us the finished concept for the males. We really don't need more shorties, I think; and with Rabanastre and it's history as well as a clear line of character familiarity from XII already in the picture it would make the most sense to go closer to that established and well loved look and race aesthetic/lore...

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Yes, yes, yes!!


Edit: I would also be okay with the Viera women being taller than the male Viera (I never beat FF12, idk if we even see male Viera in FF12) being shorter cuz there are some animal species with the females being larger than the male counterparts, and we don't have that yet on FFXIV. But if they're both tall, I'M ALL FOR IT. Just give me my amazing FF12 Viera. \ o /

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I'd love to play Viera, more so if they use something close to the XII models and show us the finished concept for the males. We really don't need more shorties.

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yes ff12 version would be the best way to go especially with the lack of tall female races thanks au ra

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Originally Posted by Duskane

yes ff12 version would be the best way to go especially with the lack of tall female races thanks au ra

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I have a feeling they'd probably be as tall as (or maybe a little shorter than) a Highlander female, if FFXII is being used as an example.

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...What on earth is going on in this thread anymore....:confused:

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Isn't it still the same as it always was? Vieras....

Okaaaay i lied, i didn't catch up to present YET...but im close! Just about....80 pages left?

I like my Au Ra, would've loved them closer to their concept too, but would welcome the Viera. As for their lower legs and feet, I feel a compromise most would accept for gear would be rather than having to redo all the gear for them, if SE stuck to choice popular items and for everything else, simply made a few generic sets (like leather, scale, metal e.c.t) and then simply coloured them to match the dungeon/crafting set in question. They'd have less variety starting out, but from then on could make them versions.

Still catching up..im on paaaage 135. People, specifically the Anti-Viera, not all but few, are so hung up on thinking that we want CUTE Viera and Miqo'te Copy/paste. Are you dense.

We don't want cute WE LITERALLY WANT FRAN! OR SOOOOMETHING LIKE FRAN, WE WAN'T STRONG RABBITS!
strong enough that they look like they could kick your spleen out from your back just by shere force.

Ya'll thinking too simple minded like a typical "hater", for a lack of a better term but still holds merit.

Albeit some want cute, the majority wants Fran! We want a strong, fierce, amazonian like, bunny race. That they look like they would fit all Tank Classes and all DPS classes

Because STRONG!

Tsukuyomi got bunny ears ; )

For the Ivalice-Raid, we actually see some Baangas. I wonder why we didnt saw any Vieras. Maybe because the Dev team is actually working on their ingame modells ; )