STOP Genderlocking Cosmetics!!

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Originally Posted by Senn

Can't female characters wear most masculine looking gear in the game already? Or am I missing something

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Still plenty of genderlocks, and some more subtle by having a completely different outfit for both sexes on the same armor.

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Originally Posted by Senn

Can't female characters wear most masculine looking gear in the game already? Or am I missing something

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There are definitely issues with continued locks and gear that transforms by gender, but the claim that it's all about giving feminine gear to male characters is cherry-picking data to drive a narrative that doesn't actually exist.

Even if we only look at recently unlocked gear, ladies got two fancy tailcoats (wedding and butler) and the frilly-but-historically-masculine High House justaucorps.

Plus they've had the male half of gendered sets for years: the Best Man's suit, Thavnairian bolero, the sailor suit*, the Ishgardian men's coat**, possibly some others I'm forgetting... The original reasoning presumably being that men wouldn't want to wear the counterpart, so it wasn't worth the work of modelling it, but apparently they've shifted stance on that. So that's why the balance of newly unlocked gear is leaning towards feminine outfits for men at the moment: the other half of the unlock already happened years ago.

* Admittedly the sailor suit is a poor counterpart to the spring dress, thematically and as a male-targeted outfit, and I would love to see them take a second shot at it. I'm picturing something like a blazer and straw boater hat.

** We get the Alpine coat from MSQ and the Adept's set as crafting gear – these are the two variants of menswear for Ishgardian NPCs. Meanwhile we only much later got the Adept-equivalent dress, which is still gender-locked, and have not received the Alpine dress or the hat.

I do wish the male version of the Thavnairian bustier had been altered along the lines of the level 80 DNC top – I think it would have looked great, and more flattering than the exact copy of the female bustier minus the bust. (Plus the dancer top has silver decorations and a gold version would be nice.) But for things like the maid dress, being feminine is kind of the point, so maybe they don't want to get into questions of when to alter things and when to leave them alone.

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Originally Posted by IdowhatIwant

Besides I thought a recent update addressed this.

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They are gradually releasing unlocked versions of models since a number were leaked a while ago. From what I can remember them showing, we can still expect the Riviera and Oasis sets – Glade already being unisex, possibly at the expense of us never getting access to the "peasant dress" that I suspect is the intended counterpart.

Beyond that, there are still a number of things that are gender-locked and neither side can wear the other, and I think those unlocks are going to favour female characters far more than male. There's the Quaintrelle/Boulevardier sets, Frontier, Songbird/Seneschal, two Valentione sets, the black- and pink-ribboned hats, all the yukatas and other beach gear.

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Originally Posted by Ayuhra

It is weird to me that we didn't get a coffer of 9S's gear, I'll say that. Puppet's Bunker drops gear that looks very, very similar but not quite there.

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/ni...o.9_Type_S.png

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To this day, I'm still disappointed we don't have 9S outfit.
So so so sad, I don't even like 2B's outfit at all and strongly prefer 9S. :/

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Originally Posted by Theodric

I'm fine with the gender lock not being a priority to remove if it means more focus on traditionally masculine gear for male characters and traditionally feminine gear for female characters. It's what the majority of people seem to want, after all - and I'd rather not see the game's fashion trends dictated purely by whoever happens to be the the loudest, most vocal voice within the community.

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Hear hear!!

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gear that transforms by gender

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At the end of the day is an artistic decision very common in JPN media, I will say if something anyone playing FFXIV should accept and not expecting a JPN company to cater to western sensibilities.

Also, I don't think it's realistic to have 2 variations of the same armours with dev team already struggling. I think at best we are going to get one model that will look the same for both genders and that will sucks.

However, I don't mind SE removing gender locks for gear that has not equivalent for the other sex and I also favoured more masculine looking gear for my female character. My opinion remains the same.

Beside genderlocked/class locked(except for af) i think overall we got enough gear compared to before..

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Originally Posted by Jybril

To this day, I'm still disappointed we don't have 9S outfit.
So so so sad, I don't even like 2B's outfit at all and strongly prefer 9S. :/

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So much this, instead males got the 2B outfit which looks ridiculous.

considering other mmorpg is even more strict with genderlocking stuff, this game is already heaven for it

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Originally Posted by Atreides

Alot of people are quick to play the homo/trans-phobia card. I'm all for genderlocking because I don't find it appealing to see males run around in female slutmogs. (I'm not even a fan of slutmogs in general)
I'd prefer it if they added more good glam options for males in general because we are severely lacking options compared to females in this game. It's always the usual female gear slightly adjusted to fit on males and it shows.

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This. 100 %

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Originally Posted by Atreides

Alot of people are quick to play the homo/trans-phobia card. I'm all for genderlocking because I don't find it appealing to see males run around in female slutmogs. (I'm not even a fan of slutmogs in general)
I'd prefer it if they added more good glam options for males in general because we are severely lacking options compared to females in this game. It's always the usual female gear slightly adjusted to fit on males and it shows.

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As a gay dude I agree with this. It really grosses me out when people throw around the homophobia/transphobic card just because they're trying to get their way... It's embarrassing. Masculine options in both character customization and glamour is lacking, we need more of a variety and right now it's leaning too much towards the opposing side.