Dark Knight Megathread

That's right. They will only act if the data reflects that the players are not playing or leveling DRK.

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Originally Posted by Danelo

If you do not communicate in Japanese forums or have a following they do not care.

If there is not a shift in the in-game metrics they will not care.

Yoshi straight up lied about player feedback on DRK.

I’ve stopped playing DRK and if all the players dissatisfied with DRK on this forum stop playing as well maybe they will listen.

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here is the thing, we cannot communicate on the forums because the mods there are going to close it and tell us to go to the english forums. The JP have a way better moderation then the english forum. The only time they will come to this forum is if we are talking about leaks

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Originally Posted by MagiusNecros

That's right. They will only act if the data reflects that the players are not playing or leveling DRK.

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The problem is that they are going to tie that to some achievement where as you get some mount or some glamour where you have to max disciples of war and magic. And you know people are going to do it for that achievement

To clarify, I was not suggesting that sqex ignores na/eu players that google magic their way to commenting on jp forums. Just that they only care about jp player feedback to the exclusion of everyone elses.

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Originally Posted by Absurdity

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LMAO I'm dead that's an awesome one.

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Originally Posted by Axxion

The problem is that they are going to tie that to some achievement where as you get some mount or some glamour where you have to max disciples of war and magic. And you know people are going to do it for that achievement

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Probably still going to be quite an obvious message if a majority of people drop DrK, like a hot potato, outside of achievement grinding.

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Originally Posted by Axxion

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The problem is that they are going to tie that to some achievement where as you get some mount or some glamour where you have to max disciples of war and magic. And you know people are going to do it for that achievement

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That’s more of an indictment on DRK sucking if someone takes the time to level the job to 90, never to return after receiving the mount.

I feel like leveling this job to 90 would be an active betrayal of it after playing it as my main since Heavensward. TBN no longer special, and is still punishing for bad use instead of rewarding for good use. No fix or charges given to Blood Weapon (it is NOT 10 seconds, it is tighter for no reason, no other skill in the game is shorter than its tooltip.) Living Dead now equal in duration to the other tank invulns but will always end early (or in your death) and the Dark Knight has no control over their own invuln as it is solely a healer check. Shadowbringer having no interaction with the rest of the kit. Salted Earth still a weak dot on a long cooldown with no other effects. Oblation requiring more party targetting for a single target REPRISAL, with no other effects. Traits to buff Living Shadow but Living Shadow has no interaction beyond it's initial press and is a single OGCD that is now even more of our damage, mistiming it will now be even more punishing than before.

And then we have Enhanced Unmend. Which is possibly the worst trait in the entire game. Worth not even a single extra use of plunge per fight. And it's LEVEL 84???? Enhanced unmend is insulting. Remove it. Give us nothing at 84 rather than this. I would rather have nothing.

I will be playing Reaper, which has a better TBN effect on break than TBN now. I don't know why Dark Knight can't have an identity or any nice things, or why it's gameplay is based on punishing misplay instead of rewarding good play. Where is our 4s 'use cooldown for extra effect' that we were promised in the live letter? All other tanks get one! WHY NOT DARK KNIGHT!? ONLY PUNISHING PLAY NO REWARDING PLAY.

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Originally Posted by Absurdity

Probably still going to be quite an obvious message if a majority of people drop DrK, like a hot potato, outside of achievement grinding.

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You forget that just getting them to 90 could be hailed as a lasting love for the job and another roaring iteration success.

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Originally Posted by Danelo

To clarify, I was not suggesting that sqex ignores na/eu players that google magic their way to commenting on jp forums. Just that they only care about jp player feedback to the exclusion of everyone elses.

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Oh we understand that but we also understand that Dark Knight as a whole since Heavensward is royally screwed over.

If a PLD cries they see changes, if a Warrior so much as makes a whimper things get changed, Goonbreaker sound effect complaints? Changed.

Dark Knight though? Whole lotta nada.

Overall over the years Dark Knight gave everyone everything that made DRK unique save for TBN which they pretty much gave away in EW. Only thing they really have is TBN shield breaks for a free oGCD which the other Tanks have mechanics that do not rely on shield breaks at all to pull out their stuff.

And a big dealbreaker to many DRK's is the glaring issues with Living Dead that require heavy healer comms to give the full 10+ seconds on invuln as opposed to GNB/WAR/PLD having largely maximum duration invulns(between 8s-10s) and needing very little comms with their healer of any. And a mistake of healing too late costs the DRK it's life. Meanwhile PLD can negate damage whenever also Clemency, GNB has some sustain in Aurora and Warrior has so much sustain they don't need a healer in some cases.

Dark Knight has zippity doo dah outside of Souleater and AD.

Which AD back in Stormblood was spammable for 15 seconds for mass pull god mode. And before that dodge tank status in HW with DADD+DADP. Was damn amazing. Heavensward was the shit.

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Originally Posted by Shurrikhan

You forget that just getting them to 90 could be hailed as a lasting love for the job and another roaring iteration success.

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It won't be. Remember, they also look at endgame raiding. If DRK is used very little in endgame raiding, that's a clear cut indicator to them that they have a problem. And it's very likely DRK WON'T be used in endgame raiding, considering all the other tanks got even better and DRK...did not. Just to be sure, I suggest nobody here do raids on a DRK. Take any other class, but don't use DRK. That's the only thing we can really do to get their attention.