Requesting Information on Jobs: Preparing for 1.21

I didn't see this in the OP, but is something I'm curious about in ragards to event planning for my LS. Can we do the job quests in a party? or are they solo only content? I really liked doing the last story quest in a party, and am hoping at least part of the job quests can be completed similarly.

Since Yoshida is a lot less for catering to the anti-social/everything must be soloable MMORPG community it wouldn't surprise me if they were party based as a lot of new quests and the like allows you to actually do things in a party.

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Originally Posted by Elexia

Since Yoshida is a lot less for catering to the anti-social/everything must be soloable MMORPG community it wouldn't surprise me if they were party based as a lot of new quests and the like allows you to actually do things in a party.

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IMO, he's right to do so. Solo in an MMO? No thanks! This isn't SWToR.

We'll see what they've actually done sometime this week i suppose though.

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Originally Posted by Elexia

Though coattailing on that fact, the only reason it won't be leveled by normal means is because people cry about having to grind.

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Well it would make very little sense if we had to level the jobs separately given what they represent. It would be levelling the same classes again. No need for it at all. They can go ahead and add more classes and/or raise the cap for more grinding, not have us grind the same things again.

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Originally Posted by Elexia

Since Yoshida is a lot less for catering to the anti-social/everything must be soloable MMORPG community it wouldn't surprise me if they were party based as a lot of new quests and the like allows you to actually do things in a party.

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I'm glad he is doing this. Soloing gets boring fast ; ;

I actually have to level up Conjurer to unlock Paladin when it comes out. Grinding up a job I really didn't even want to play. I never been the level up a whole much of jobs / have a bunch of alts in a MMO type of person. I rather just level 1 up and be good at that.

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Originally Posted by Elexia

Since Yoshida is a lot less for catering to the anti-social/everything must be soloable MMORPG community it wouldn't surprise me if they were party based as a lot of new quests and the like allows you to actually do things in a party.

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If you look at almost any modern MMO you level up by solo questing or dugenons which have some kind of queue system to get in. Grinding countless mobs is not good game design and isn't popular with most people these days. The endless grinding is probably one of the reasons FFXIV lacks players.

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Originally Posted by Zumi

I actually have to level up Conjurer to unlock Paladin when it comes out. Grinding up a job I really didn't even want to play. I never been the level up a whole much of jobs / have a bunch of alts in a MMO type of person. I rather just level 1 up and be good at that.

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Thats because in most MMOs you can't be more than 1 thing on 1 character... I think they are trying to get people to embrace that whole "be every class" concept

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Originally Posted by Zumi

If you look at almost any modern MMO you level up by solo questing or dugenons which have some kind of queue system to get in. Grinding countless mobs is not good game design and isn't popular with most people these days. The endless grinding is probably one of the reasons FFXIV lacks players.

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I think its viable. See some will want to quest to the cap. Grinding should be faster than questing though, maybe not per hour but by the fact that quests are either limited or on a timer.

The grind is not bad as long as the end destination is highly desirable.

If every review site, personal reviewer, blogger and gaming friend you knew all said this big boss was by far the best (And most fun) thing they'd ever seen in video gaming history but to fight it you had to grind for like 4 months to get to be able to fight it... then people wouldn't mind the grind at all because the end justified the means

Gladiator as a req for White Mage? Pugilist as a req for Black Mage? What are SE smoking? I would have thought CNJ30/THM15 would have been a better fit, and THM30/CNJ15 for BLM.

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Originally Posted by Starlord

This is why Videos/Information is stupid with this community.. always take things out of proportion before you actually "try" it.. I'm sure things are all different...

Just having the Ability to Cross-class alone.. makes this game way over powering.. I hope they ditch the class system eventually... being Cross-classing is really stupid.. and makes everything too easy :/

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No. Just no.

I don't see this as like even a new job but just an expansion on the old ones. A series of quests that give you 5 new abilities, and some job specific armor and weapon. Even with the 5 new abilities each of the jobs get they will probably play pretty much the same they do now.