The arrogance of some people

As a tank, and a very old one at that, I believe that the fact that everyone is doing what he's supposed to do is already a good thing : a Tank that tank properly without stressing too much the healer, a DPS that dps properly without taking aggro and the healer who keeps everyone alive all along the run. The fact that healer SHOULD dps during a run is actually a new thing to me since FF14 ARR. I've never seen something like this in FF11, WOW or any other MMos in my life and I can tell I had my share of tanking. However, over time, I came to believe that if a healer feels comfortable healing AND dpsing at the same time, fine by me. But never i will blame a healer that wants to heal only because he believes that its sole duty. Healer should dps ? its just because everyone just wants to finish a run fast like eating some fast food without enjoying your role. That's the way the players are now.

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Originally Posted by Bixillarla

Excuse me it is not being lazy. I took healer to heal not DPS. If I wanted to DPS I would play a DPS class. If I keep everyone alive then I am doing my job.

Do you also expect the DPS to throw heals too? If no then why do you expect healers to DPS?

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Well, as a SMN you are expected to raise the dead before healers, but i rarely see any who do in pugs.

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Originally Posted by Averax

Well, as a SMN you are expected to raise the dead before healers, but i rarely see any who do in pugs.

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I will often raise if I can; however, usually my swiftcast is on cooldown from Shadowflare.

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Originally Posted by NorthernLadMSP

I was in Expert and we had this amazing PLD who was mitigating damage like nobody's business. The SCH was literally standing around the entire dungeon throwing an occasional Physick up. Other than that he did absolutely nothing the whole dungeon.

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Originally Posted by Razem5791

its just because everyone just wants to finish a run fast like eating some fast food without enjoying your role.

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It's exactly BECAUSE I want to enjoy my role that I dps as a healer.
But good to know that people get a full-course meal experience from standing around twiddling their thumbs doing nothing most of the time, or just afk-following someone else...:rolleyes:
If you actually enjoy being a healer, create situations in which actual skillful healing is required, since the game won't create them for you unless you are raiding.
Helping people get out faster of the same dungeon they have already run 500 times is just an added bonus.

Whoa, this thread keeps growing faster than my ability to read it.

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Originally Posted by Atoli

It's exactly BECAUSE I want to enjoy my role that I dps as a healer.
But good to know that people get a full-course meal experience from standing around twiddling their thumbs doing nothing most of the time, or just afk-following someone else...:rolleyes:
If you actually enjoy being a healer, create situations in which actual skillful healing is required, since the game won't create them for you unless you are raiding.
Helping people get out faster of the same dungeon they have already run 500 times is just an added bonus.

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The player shouldnt have to create those situation, that absolutely falls on the Devs.

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Originally Posted by NorthernLadMSP

I was on my SMN the other night in Expert (trying to get the Plague Bringer chest), and we had this amazing PLD who was using CDs and mitigating damage like nobody's business. The SCH was literally standing around the entire dungeon throwing an occasional Physick up. Other than that he did absolutely nothing the whole dungeon.

Did he keep everyone alive? Yes.

Did I consider him a great healer? Hell no. Someone like that will never get a commendation from me.

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and that's exactly the reason i don't want to play healer anymore. when i have to dps almost all the time, why not playing a dps class? this game has failed so hard in making healing interesting... the person who keep you alive, heals you through stupid is no longer part of the team. you >have< to bring one of them to the dungeon, but i don't even know why(?). their dps is bad. and nowadays you don't really need the heals.

it's just no fun anymore to play a healer. because of the overpowered 3.0 skills and the ilvl which increases waaay to fast. ilvl 170 dungeons? we are already ilvl 210... doing content unsynced with lvl 60? just remove the healer classes from the game or turn them into real dps classes with enough mana and accuracy _._

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Originally Posted by Tint

and that's exactly the reason i don't want to play healer anymore. when i have to dps almost all the time, why not playing a dps class? this game has failed so hard in making healing interesting... the person who keep you alive, heals you through stupid is no longer part of the team. you >have< to bring one of them to the dungeon, but i don't even know why(?). their dps is bad. and nowadays you don't really need the heals.

it's just no fun anymore to play a healer. because of the overpowered 3.0 skills and the ilvl which increases waaay to fast. ilvl 170 dungeons? we are already ilvl 210... doing content unsynced with lvl 60? just remove the healer classes from the game or turn them into real dps classes with enough mana and accuracy _._

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Interesting, I have the opposite opinion. It is what makes healing so fun in this game. Each run is much more dynamic than a DPS. When I go on a first pull as my SMN, I do the exact same rotation each time. With a healer, it's more like a few rotations mixed in with priorities. Like, if my tank is dying faster than normal, I can't spam as many holies, or if it's barely taking any damage, I can DPS way more etc. I find the weaving of a DPS rotation in with healing with different tanks/DPS makes for each run to be different than the last.

meh i usually get irradiated when im tanking and die because a healer was dpsing then throwing me heals instead.......

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Originally Posted by XgungraveX

meh i usually get irradiated when im tanking and die because a healer was dpsing then throwing me heals instead.......

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If this happens more often than normal, it may not be the healer's fault