VIERA AND HROTHGAR COMPLAINT MEGATHREAD

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Originally Posted by Midareyukki

Followed by yours, I'm sure ^^ Maybe that way you'll move onto something that befits you and your garbage vitriol, yeah?

-_- anyway, trashy people aside...

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachmen...JpXEAILRDx.png

If Square is this willing to perpetuate this ridiculous situation, then they deserve ridicule in turn. Sorry Square, but you manifest what you put out there.

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They deserve to go bankrupt for this and take this game along with it. Then we dont have to play this sorry excuse of an MMO anymore.

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Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur

They deserve to go bankrupt for this and take this game along with it. Then we dont have to play this sorry excuse of an MMO anymore.

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o,o are you okay? I just want them to add headgear and proper hairstyles. I don't want the game to fail, I'd rather see it succeed. As do the rest of the people who want Hrothgar and Viera to be "finished".

...sorry, it's just weird seeing you feel so negatively toward rhe game, Atelier...

No one gonna say how male viera got to be a event npc before hrothgar?

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Originally Posted by Milus

No one gonna say how male viera got to be a event npc before hrothgar?

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After that meme Lalafell lass and Emmannellain's not-boyfriend got to be 'costumes' in the halloween event when Runar is right there, I'm not surprised in the slightest.

Square Enix: "Ugh, making animalistic characters is such a pain... Let's just pretend they don't exist for a moment, let's focus on the same old human races. Screw the players who like them, they barely exist anyway."

Blizzard and Bethesda: "Hey, want to see a high-res version of our plot-relevant beast people? BECAUSE NOW YOU CAN!"
https://thumbs.gfycat.com/ThinFluidBat-max-1mb.gif
https://media.tenor.com/TqB-ubWRpCkA...k-brodslin.gif

"What, not many people care for them? Well tough, they're a part of the world we made and they actually make it interesting. Imagine only caring for humanoid characters whose differences are eyebrows!!"

Khamira. <3

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Originally Posted by Midareyukki

Square Enix: "Ugh, making animalistic characters is such a pain... Let's just pretend they don't exist for a moment, let's focus on the same old human races. Screw the players who like them, they barely exist anyway."

Blizzard and Bethesda: "Hey, want to see a high-res version of our plot-relevant beast people? BECAUSE NOW YOU CAN!"
https://thumbs.gfycat.com/ThinFluidBat-max-1mb.gif
https://media.tenor.com/TqB-ubWRpCkA...k-brodslin.gif

"What, not many people care for them? Well tough, they're a part of the world we made and they actually make it interesting. Imagine only caring for humanoid characters whose differences are eyebrows!!"

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It's funny cuz the one time Hrothgars were kinda relevant was in that one 'anime' promotional clip, and even then they were mostly in the background

https://finalfantasydojo.de/wp-conte...6_19-54-58.jpg
https://cdn.mos.cms.futurecdn.net/3W...hUscEBJc9d.jpg

Fun fact: that hairstyle doesn't even exist ingame :D

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Originally Posted by Milus

No one gonna say how male viera got to be a event npc before hrothgar?

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Hrothgar been in the game 3 years, 0 event npcs.
Double mastectomy viera been in the game 4 minutes and gets event npcs.
And I somehow, Idk why, just really dont think valentines will be good to hrothgar either.

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Originally Posted by XiRon

Hrothgar been in the game 3 years, 0 event npcs.
Double mastectomy viera been in the game 4 minutes and gets event npcs.
And I somehow, Idk why, just really dont think valentines will be good to hrothgar either.

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If anything, maybe Square will acknowledge how hroth players often /dote each other and will play on that in some way!

/copium

> Makes the most chivalrous race in the game
> /dote emote among the cutest, most expressive and charming
> Loads them up with medieval Romance tropes
> Gunbreaker literally all about devoting yourself to a Queen and protecting the one you love with undying loyalty

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Exec 1: "Wacky Elezen in formal attire?"
Exec 2: "Wacky Elezen in formal attire."
Exec 3: "Add in a Hyur for extra *sparkle*"

https://img.finalfantasyxiv.com/lds/...AkbKdTc46Q.jpg

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Originally Posted by Midareyukki

> Makes the most chivalrous race in the game
> /dote emote among the cutest, most expressive and charming
> Loads them up with medieval Romance tropes
> Gunbreaker literally all about devoting yourself to a Queen and protecting the one you love with undying loyalty

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Exec 1: "Wacky Elezen in formal attire?"
Exec 2: "Wacky Elezen in formal attire."
Exec 3: "Add in a Hyur for extra *sparkle*"

https://img.finalfantasyxiv.com/lds/...AkbKdTc46Q.jpg

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And still the Highlander Bert is considerated a joke in that questline, because all highlanders and roegadins are aways meathead jokes in this game.

https://i.imgur.com/CT4Vb4R.png

I would like the length of this hairstyle, pretty please, and not the version we have in-game that looks like they just had a near miss from a guillotine. :(

Speaking of hairstyles, has there been any talk about Hroth and Viera getting consistent hairstyle updates in future patch cycles or is it going to be "whenever we have time" (and/or remember you exist)

Also still curious if 6.2 was a one-time-only as compensation for 6.1, or if it means both races will get new hairstyles on par as everyone else from now on.

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Originally Posted by Allegor

Speaking of hairstyles, has there been any talk about Hroth and Viera getting consistent hairstyle updates in future patch cycles or is it going to be "whenever we have time" (and/or remember you exist)

Also still curious if 6.2 was a one-time-only as compensation for 6.1, or if it means both races will get new hairstyles on par as everyone else from now on.

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There won't really be any news on this until the 23rd when the Live Letter shows any new (or lack of) hairstyles, along with what percentage of the new gear these races can fully use in 6.3.

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Originally Posted by Allegor

Speaking of hairstyles, has there been any talk about Hroth and Viera getting consistent hairstyle updates in future patch cycles or is it going to be "whenever we have time" (and/or remember you exist)

Also still curious if 6.2 was a one-time-only as compensation for 6.1, or if it means both races will get new hairstyles on par as everyone else from now on.

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vieragals got lyses hair when it dropt and both races got both new hairstyles in 6.2 so Im hoping this means GOING FORWARD all new styles will fit both races.
I'd super appreciate if hrothgar got everything viera got in 6.1 and 6.2 because they have like 30 styles now and hrothgar have 7, and hrothgar still cannot use their own race hairs regardless of facetype so I think a little less blatant favoritism would be so cool of the devs but I haven't suffered any headwounds recently to allow me to have that much optimism.

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Originally Posted by Milus

No one gonna say how male viera got to be a event npc before hrothgar?

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Hroth would have made a perfect Santa and they completely missed out on it

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Originally Posted by SassyAssassin

Hroth would have made a perfect Santa and they completely missed out on it

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Or better yet... Krampus! No other race looks as good with the arch demon/archaeodemon/demonic horns as Hroths, after all

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Originally Posted by Allegor

Speaking of hairstyles, has there been any talk about Hroth and Viera getting consistent hairstyle updates in future patch cycles or is it going to be "whenever we have time" (and/or remember you exist)

Also still curious if 6.2 was a one-time-only as compensation for 6.1, or if it means both races will get new hairstyles on par as everyone else from now on.

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Yes actually! On the 6.2 live letter Yoshi-P said now that hrothgar have ears on the hairstyles they're going to keep adding the other hairstyles on the following patches.
Unless you want to be reeeeally pessimistic, expect that to be the case every patch until we get every hairstyle shared by the other races, for both hroths and viera. And every newly added hairstyles as well, of course, barring gender locking.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FkqZkBFU...g&name=900x900

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FkqWV7lWQAEBpP_.jpg

A hat that doesn't replace head model and new hairstyles coming in 6.3. I imagine they will be Hroth compatible as well.

That outfit is perfeeeeeect

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Originally Posted by Caro178

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FkqWV7lWQAEBpP_.jpg

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yessssss, one of the best newer hairs :o

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Originally Posted by Rokke

yessssss, one of the best newer hairs :o

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Not into it myself.

They better add more than just one. I need that long hairstyle and the afro aswell !

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Originally Posted by BiddyBatnana

They better add more than just one. I need that long hairstyle and the afro aswell !

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If the pattern continues there will be 6 new ones again for both genders not including any new hairs introduced for all races. There have been a consistent batch of 6 every major patch since 6.0. They've also been added in order based on file number. Next will be the simple ponytail and the matching wavy hairs for ladies and their male equivalents for men + 3 modern aesthetics (one of which confirmed to be Saintly Style.) Hroth are two patches behind Viera right now and should get all the hairs ported to Viera in 6.1 as of 6.3.

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Originally Posted by Caro178

If the pattern continues there will be 6 new ones again for both genders not including any new hairs introduced for all races. There have been a consistent batch of 6 every major patch since 6.0. They've also been added in order based on file number. Next will be the simple ponytail and the matching wavy hairs for ladies and their male equivalents for men + 3 modern aesthetics (one of which confirmed to be Saintly Style.) Hroth are two patches behind Viera right now and should get all the hairs ported to Viera in 6.1 as of 6.3.

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Id like hrothgar to get everything viera got in 6.1 and .2 and be up to par by now but at least we'll get Rainmaker in 6.3, I think.
What were the non-Modern Aesthetes mviera got in 6.1? Anyone got a pic? Hrothgar have nothing in Character Creation except 2 face-locked styles and Emmanellain.

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Originally Posted by XiRon

Id like hrothgar to get everything viera got in 6.1 and .2 and be up to par by now but at least we'll get Rainmaker in 6.3, I think.
What were the non-Modern Aesthetes mviera got in 6.1? Anyone got a pic? Hrothgar have nothing in Character Creation except 2 face-locked styles and Emmanellain.

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These are the 3 "base game" styles male Viera got in 6.1.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fktk3MVX...name=4096x4096
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fktk3xYX...name=4096x4096
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fktk4VCX...name=4096x4096

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Originally Posted by XiRon

What were the non-Modern Aesthetes mviera got in 6.1? Anyone got a pic? Hrothgar have nothing in Character Creation except 2 face-locked styles and Emmanellain.

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https://i.imgur.com/4G1c5Ls.png

I think this is the current mviera roster

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Originally Posted by Caro178

These are the 3 "base game" styles male Viera got in 6.1.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fktk3MVX...name=4096x4096
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fktk3xYX...name=4096x4096
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fktk4VCX...name=4096x4096

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Oh HELL YEAH we getting the "Jesus" and Artoriel's outstanding longish hairstyles those were two of my "must haves" for hrothgar.
Rainmaker, Jesus and Artoriel hrothgar finally getting a good patch (we hope and pray)

I wonder how a Hroth would look with Jandelaine's hairstyle. It's definitelly one of the most "fitting" styles for them since it can easily pass off as fur

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Originally Posted by Caro178

If the pattern continues there will be 6 new ones again for both genders not including any new hairs introduced for all races. There have been a consistent batch of 6 every major patch since 6.0. They've also been added in order based on file number. Next will be the simple ponytail and the matching wavy hairs for ladies and their male equivalents for men + 3 modern aesthetics (one of which confirmed to be Saintly Style.) Hroth are two patches behind Viera right now and should get all the hairs ported to Viera in 6.1 as of 6.3.

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Just me here trying to telepathically tell Yoshi to give us the Gyr Abanian hair

If I'm remembering the file numbers correctly these are the next "base game" hairstyles that should be added for female Viera in a couple weeks. It should be 3 base game and then another 3 modern aesthetics + the new short hairstyle from the deep dungeon. In a perfect world Hrothgar would also be caught up with this patch, but I'm really expecting them to just get the male Viera 6.1 batch.

https://img.finalfantasyxiv.com/lds/...g/0420_004.png

https://img.finalfantasyxiv.com/lds/...20151009_4.png

And for male. I know this one corresponds to the female ponytail. I can't recall what the other matching styles are.

https://img.finalfantasyxiv.com/lds/...g/0420_001.png

Tbh I don't mind Hroths being one patch behind Viera so long as they stay consistently updated. We'll catch up eventually anyways. Though if I'm reading the hairstyle chart correctly, the hairstyles I'd like the most (not-Nero, not-Gladio, and not-Hien) are dead last, so guess I'm waiting till 7.2 at the earliest lol

Oh I wonder how the curly ones will look on Viera, might really suit them

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Originally Posted by Allegor

Tbh I don't mind Hroths being one patch behind Viera so long as they stay consistently updated. We'll catch up eventually anyways. Though if I'm reading the hairstyle chart correctly, the hairstyles I'd like the most (not-Nero, not-Gladio, and not-Hien) are dead last, so guess I'm waiting till 7.2 at the earliest lol

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When YoshiP issued the apology to Hrothgar players during the great ear-tastrophy of 2022 he explained that the problem would be corrected but that it would mean slower updates for Hrothgar. That's pretty much why I expect their updates to consistently remain 2 patches behind Viera. That said, I expect both to get brand new hairstyles upon release from now on, which is the real win for a lot of folks. This one from the next deep dungeon will not look good on Viera because it's already giving 5head on this Highlander, but I think it'll be pretty decent on Hrothgar as a short style.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachmen...3_21-16-55.png

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Originally Posted by Caro178

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachmen...3_21-16-55.png

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Thal's balls....Viera's forehead is contagious...

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Originally Posted by Allegor

Thal's balls....Viera's forehead is contagious...

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Gotta be fair and say this was never a problem exclusive to Viera. Plenty of bangless hairstyles give every race 5head, lmao. Highlanders not having eyebrows doesn't do them any favours.

One has to wonder if 5head is a desirable trait in Japan with how some hairstyles look on all races.
I have never seen anyone use the long hair (worn by Artoirel de Fortemps for example) on male Viera, that's for sure.

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Originally Posted by Caro178

If I'm remembering the file numbers correctly these are the next "base game" hairstyles that should be added for female Viera in a couple weeks. It should be 3 base game and then another 3 modern aesthetics + the new short hairstyle from the deep dungeon. In a perfect world Hrothgar would also be caught up with this patch, but I'm really expecting them to just get the male Viera 6.1 batch.

https://img.finalfantasyxiv.com/lds/...g/0420_004.png

https://img.finalfantasyxiv.com/lds/...20151009_4.png

And for male. I know this one corresponds to the female ponytail. I can't recall what the other matching styles are.

https://img.finalfantasyxiv.com/lds/...g/0420_001.png

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Oooh, the wavy hairstyle with bangs is my favorite. Can't wait to use it on my Vieras! Very happy.

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Originally Posted by Caro178

When YoshiP issued the apology to Hrothgar players during the great ear-tastrophy of 2022 he explained that the problem would be corrected but that it would mean slower updates for Hrothgar. That's pretty much why I expect their updates to consistently remain 2 patches behind Viera. That said, I expect both to get brand new hairstyles upon release from now on, which is the real win for a lot of folks. This one from the next deep dungeon will not look good on Viera because it's already giving 5head on this Highlander, but I think it'll be pretty decent on Hrothgar as a short style.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachmen...3_21-16-55.png

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This dude just gives off yakuza vibes.

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Originally Posted by Caro178

When YoshiP issued the apology to Hrothgar players during the great ear-tastrophy of 2022 he explained that the problem would be corrected but that it would mean slower updates for Hrothgar. That's pretty much why I expect their updates to consistently remain 2 patches behind Viera. That said, I expect both to get brand new hairstyles upon release from now on, which is the real win for a lot of folks. This one from the next deep dungeon will not look good on Viera because it's already giving 5head on this Highlander, but I think it'll be pretty decent on Hrothgar as a short style.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachmen...3_21-16-55.png

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That hair isn't too bad. That forehead though... y i k e s

I don't think it helps that the Hyur is missing eyebrows.