SE Banning players with large amounts of gil?

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Originally Posted by Jacotto

To be fair, my support rep confirmed that if I didn't buy or sell gil (RMT), or take advantage of an exploit (illicit activity), my account would eventually be restored and my gil will not be confiscated. I asked him to confirm this was info he had from SE and not just his best guess and he told me support was informed this is the case over the weekend. A few other folks on reddit reported similar conversations so it seems like there's message discipline. So CS hasn't been entirely useless - they have at least put my mind at ease on one of the two big issues here.

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Talked to CS today, and she said she heard nothing of that sort and no one is promising anything, other than we are all guility for one reason or another and we are all on our first strike regardless if we are truly innocent or not.

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Originally Posted by scarebearz

So far nobody has come forward to say *they* had over 10mil on a non-legacy server when the bans hit, so I'm doubting 10's of thousands had that amount of gil before the bans.

You may be right, this may only make matters worse, but I don't believe I have been rude etc.

Like I said, this is the only place we have to bring the matter to peoples attention.

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And what has that gotten you, hm? Most people here seem more convinced than ever that you did something wrong. Meanwhile, we got class acts like Jacotto biting my head off when I try to explain, quite politely and reasonably, that you seriously should just count yourself lucky that you get your accounts back, when S-E has been known to be less than merciful in the past, even when the players in question have been innocent. Contrary to what you might believe, I am on your side. And what I've learned in the past as S-Es customer, is that you better just keep your head down and hope for the best.

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Originally Posted by Jacotto

So on the one hand you say SE will never see this, but then that it will get us in more trouble?

I don't see how this can possibly get me in any trouble - I'm discussing an error I believe SE made on the forums, they are more than welcome to provide clarity or a counterpoint if it means anything to them (which I doubt it does). Thank you for continuing to advocate for the futility of our actions, but I remain unconvinced it's entirely without purpose. At the very least it provides a decent stress outlet, although I do hope we can get some kind of response.

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You seriously should stop putting words in my mouth. Starting to piss me off, and makes you look like a troll. I didn't say that they wouldn't see them, I said they wouldn't listen. Since laws don't enter the equation (it's not against the law to terminate your account, you know), they can decide to terminate your account because you are discussing your suspensions, which, as I said before, is a private matter.

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Originally Posted by Jacotto

If it's starting to piss you off I don't see why you're still here. What is your vested interest in this conversation that requires your continued presence? I don't see how I'm trolling when I have a very vested interest here. I'd still like a response from SE, a community rep, what have you. I'll just have to hope that they won't decide to terminate my account based on my requests for clarification, but I thank you again for your continued concern - even when conveying that you are obviously upset with me. It's a sign of maturity and I do appreciate it.

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Fair enough. I've said my piece, I'm not trying to force anyone to see it my way.

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Originally Posted by Reiia

Talked to CS today, and she said she heard nothing of that sort and no one is promising anything, other than we are all guility for one reason or another and we are all on our first strike regardless if we are truly innocent or not.

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I feel great in a game where I get "strikes" without doing anything wrong beside selling something on the market to someone who bought gils, which I have absolutly no control over (and don't tell me it would be obvious, I just started crafting and the most expensive item I sold was at 6500g and 40 HQ DS ores at 1k each).

Have we gotten any updates on people who came out of the 72 hr ban? Several FC mates had over 8m and none of our guys got the ban hammer. And going by SE own statement that they have frozen like 372,000 million (roughly what they said) (and SE thats not a number) I can say so far SE has been dropping the ball on lots of things some I wont state here due to fearing the forum ban hammer again.. But would have to say if its true they blanket banned tons of legit players (by tons I mean maybe just a couple hundred) without due diligence Ill probably just cancel my account.

Also lets stop bashing each other guys like seriously this isn't LoL we don't need to be a toxic community like that

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Originally Posted by Anderian

And what has that gotten you, hm? Most people here seem more convinced than ever that you did something wrong. Meanwhile, we got class acts like Jacotto biting my head off when I try to explain, quite politely and reasonably, that you seriously should just count yourself lucky that you get your accounts back, when S-E has been known to be less than merciful in the past, even when the players in question have been innocent. Contrary to what you might believe, I am on your side. And what I've learned in the past as S-Es customer, is that you better just keep your head down and hope for the best.

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It's got us nowhere and your right that most here won't believe many individuals over an automated email sent by SE.

While I may get nowhere by complaining, I have also found you certainly get nowhere if you stand by and do nothing either. (referring to RL)

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Originally Posted by LunaticWoda

Have we gotten any updates on people who came out of the 72 hr ban?

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Nothing yet.

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Originally Posted by Jacotto

Thanks for the support.

No, I haven't heard of anyone getting unsuspended yet, and that'd be lighting up reddit if they had been. In regard to canceling accounts, it's a sign of what a great job SE has done with the game for die-hard FF fans like myself that I'm still willing to stay subscribed and keep playing at this point if I get my account back untampered. After this abhorrent treatment I wouldn't do that for any other game.

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Its not 72 hour ban its 7 day ban. They forgot a important thing when i asked them on Friday (called today to confirm wtf is going on, and get a whole different story from friday.... basically don't believe anything CS says. They have no unified answer and just feels like they are saying whatever they want to make you feel like they are halping) that the accounts were flagged and even though you were instantly suspended, the servers did not register until monday when the timer started ticking AND its for 72 hours JPN time... so earlist we will know is Friday if the CS is spouting more BS about the innocent ones caught in this net won't lose their gil. After seeing that bogus STF report im pretty sure any innocents caught in this had their gil taken away. Because at this point they are just waving their TOS/EULA like their billy stick and smacking people with it innocent or not to try and make example of people who were unfortuned enough to be swepted up with the actual guilty ones.

Makes you wonder if these people just throw darts at a board for a story to tell you...

TL;DR = 72 HOURS SUSPENSION SQUARE ENIX TIME = 7 DAY SUSPENSION LAYMAN TERMS.

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TL;DR = 72 HOURS SUSPENSION SQUARE ENIX TIME = 7 DAY SUSPENSION LAYMAN TERMS.

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Bummer, some people should record their calls when calling CS and montage it up on youtube to see how whack this really is. Im truly curious to see how this pans out.

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Originally Posted by LunaticWoda

Bummer, some people should record their calls when calling CS and montage it up on youtube to see how whack this really is. Im truly curious to see how this pans out.

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They are nice people, but it gets annoying when every time you call, it is a new story.

Nearly 60k views / 500 posts and not a single word from a SE staff member / "community rep".