@Naoki Yoshida-> Make Samurai a Tank class!

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Originally Posted by ToppeHatte

PLD and DRK are largely interchangeable in raid comps, another dps-centric tank to rival WAR would be lovely. I think above that though, I want to see the absolute fallout and descent into chaos making SAM a tank would do to the forums. Healthy doses of a balanced tank meta, reasonable queue times and OF schadenfreude sounds like the ultimate win-win-win to me.

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The tank meta might improve but tanks are still going to be really, really boring if the 100% DPS meta continues to stick and they don't address it with sweeping changes. Tank makes the most sense for SAM, it sucks that we have to get yet another sword tank but if they insist on adding SAM then it's gotta be a tank. I'd prefer them not to add SAM at all at this point and keep it for a later expansion, but whatever's been decided has already been decided.

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Originally Posted by ToppeHatte

PLD and DRK are largely interchangeable in raid comps, another dps-centric tank to rival WAR would be lovely. I think above that though, I want to see the absolute fallout and descent into chaos making SAM a tank would do to the forums. Healthy doses of a balanced tank meta, reasonable queue times and OF schadenfreude sounds like the ultimate win-win-win to me.

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There is literally nothing healthy about the idea of pigeonholing tanks into "main tank jobs" and "off tank jobs". The goal should be for them to have their own unique identity while bringing appropriate tools (but not identical ones) regardless of which role they take in battle.

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Originally Posted by GMERC

There is literally nothing healthy about the idea of pigeonholing tanks into "main tank jobs" and "off tank jobs". The goal should be for them to have their own unique identity while bringing appropriate tools (but not identical ones) regardless of which role they take in battle.

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I agree. They should strive for every tank to be just as viable regardless if they're MT or OT.

And why you think SAM is only sword class ? Samurai can equip Sasumata, Yari with Shield or not. Don't forget, DK use scythes on FF XI and great sword on FF XIV.

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Originally Posted by Rahdah

And why you think SAM is only sword class ? Samurai can equip Sasumata, Yari with Shield or not. Don't forget, DK use scythes on FF XI and great sword on FF XIV.

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DRKs had never used Scythes before FFXI. In fact, scythes were not even a weapon classification at all until then either. Even then, DRK in FFXI were pretty much just as good with Greatswords still as they were with Scythes. Samurai, if added, will not use something other than a katana. That's part of the whole allure to adding them and has been in pretty much every iteration. Katana is often it's own weapon class in most Final Fantasy that feature it.

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Originally Posted by DarkSlayerGrimm

oh god I can already see it if Samurai is added as DPS everyone will switch to it
>all fate parties,raid parties and trial parties will all be samurai dps.
>No queues will ever pop because everyone will be sitting in dps que as samurai
>Idyllshire will have samurai as far as the eye can see,all future content wont be completed due to the lack of tanks and healers because Samurai.
>Adding in new classes wont matter because Samurai


/joke
Lets just hope 4.0 tank job can match the Samurai hype

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this is true when they put the ninja in, as it was the only new job to be added in the patch, but for hw it was not true.

but the converns about DF i agree with defo!

I was thinking, if SAM is released and is a DPS. And we only get 2 DPS in this expansion, what would that mean for 5.0? Surely we would get a Tank and Healer? But a big argument people make about adding DPS is their appeal and their selling point for new players, as DPS is the most open and have the least responsibilities (In casual content). Going by this logic 5.0 would either see 3 new jobs AGAIN or 2 new jobs... and 1 would have to be a DPS. Leaving either Tank or Healer in the dark for FOUR YEARS. This doesn't seem like a healthy decision for the game.

I still believe SAM has a 50/50 of either DPS or Tank but that doesn't mean I think it's the right decision. But I've heard some fair-ish arguments... like how there is a pattern to how they've been adding Jobs so far. Melee DPS - NIN, Ranged DPS - MCH, Tank - DRK, Healer - AST. And now back to Melee. Or how currently we have 2 str, 2 int, 3 dex, 3 mnd and 3 vit. So adding SAM - Str and RDM - Int, would balance the attributes.

We'll know for sure in 2 months, and I'll physically be at the event this time! I personally really want SAM to be a Tank but I've prepared myself to not be disappointed since DRK was given Tank, meh.
Just my input on the matter anyways.

+ Said it a million times, I really hope it doesn't use a 2-handed Katana but Dual wields Katana's, DPS or Tank, mainly because as a Tank we have enough 2 handers and as DPS... so I can laugh at them getting another dual wielding job, I kid. But seriously 2-handed Katana is so typical and boring IMO, but I'll still use it because I'm a filthy weeb I love the aesthetics of Samurai

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Originally Posted by Katana190

[I want a job that] Dual wields Katana's[sic]

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I've got good news for you.

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Originally Posted by GMERC

I've got good news for you.

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I don't see the point in your comment or the twisting of my words. I really don't mind if it uses a 2-handed Katana, and honestly not the point of my comment anyways, was just a plus I decided to put in.
Anyways if you want to make a point about it then why not.

First off, Zenos to me is clearly using Katana's, more then one. The Garleans have had a track record of borrowing weapons and job assets to form their own kind of class.

First we had Nero who uses MRD animations but uses a GunHammer instead. Then you have Regula van Hydrus who uses a 2-Handed Gun-Greatsword. And now from the looks of it, Zenos using a Revolver Scabbard of sorts, I'm thinking he's going to borrow assets from SAM.

Also 1 Great Katana already exist in the game, which is the DRK Law one, it's even stated in the Lore Book. Anyways I don't really want to argue this because at the end of the day I don't really mind what weapon they use, I just like the aesthetics of SAM in general, like stated.

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Originally Posted by Katana190

Anyways if you want to make a point about it then why not.

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