Dark Knight Megathread

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Originally Posted by DRKoftheAzure

To the people who asked for gap closers to lose their damage... You are part of the problem with what is wrong with game balance...

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Why? In 99% of situations, Plunge is literally just another random OGCD. You could shuffle the potency of its charges to say, the Shadowbringer charges and literally nothing would change with DRK. That's a failure of design when the primary design purpose of a skill is utilized so insanely rarely compared to its secondary usage.

Removing the potency means that the new gap closer gets to be an *actual* gapcloser as it was designed. I just only hope that it copies MNK's Thunderclap and lets you warp to allies as well, then it can be used as nice skill expression for uptime purposes. Doubly so if they follow through on the 'in DT we wont make boss hitboxes the size of planets' comment Yoshi-P made in a previous liveletter/fanfest.

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Originally Posted by DRKoftheAzure

As for Living Shadow, I want that ability gone since Shadowbringers media tour info dropped because Dark Knight is NOT a Summon Pet class and NOTHING about it screams "I can summon a pet" and I would rather it get replaced with something that isn't a Summon Pet, like say, another big burst combo. The only way you can get me to actually tolerate Living Shadow, if it was more like old pet mechanics where they take damage and tank for you... otherwise you are not getting Summoners to play tank, if anything you further driving Dark Knight players AWAY from Dark Knight, because if I wanted to play a summon pet class/job, it would be Summoner/Scholar, not Dark Knight or Machinist...

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No offense, but no one is looking at Living Shadow and going "this is a pet class", considering its there for 20s out of every 2mins. MCH can summon Queen more often than DRK can summon LS and no one's saying that's a pet job either.
Hate LS because its effectively just a fancy looking DoT, but to complain about it making DRK be perceived as some sort of summoning based job is just lmao.

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Originally Posted by DRKoftheAzure

TAs for Living Shadow, I want that ability gone since Shadowbringers media tour info dropped because Dark Knight is NOT a Summon Pet class and NOTHING about it screams "I can summon a pet"

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You're fighting a living shadow rn thinking a 2minute DOT is comparable to pre-EW summon pet.

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Originally Posted by Daeriion_Aeradiir

Why? In 99% of situations, Plunge is literally just another random OGCD. You could shuffle the potency of its charges to say, the Shadowbringer charges and literally nothing would change with DRK. That's a failure of design when the primary design purpose of a skill is utilized so insanely rarely compared to its secondary usage.

Removing the potency means that the new gap closer gets to be an *actual* gapcloser as it was designed. I just only hope that it copies MNK's Thunderclap and lets you warp to allies as well, then it can be used as nice skill expression for uptime purposes. Doubly so if they follow through on the 'in DT we wont make boss hitboxes the size of planets' comment Yoshi-P made in a previous liveletter/fanfest.

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From what it looks like they also only turned them into dashes on the jobs that already had a lot of offensive oGCDs, Dark Knight and Gunbreaker. Warrior and Paladin still seem to have kept their old gap closers.

Now it could be entirely possible that they kept the old animations for those two and just removed the potency, would just be a bit odd.

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Originally Posted by Keagian

The thing they pretty much said was, suffer for 2.5 years with a shitty rotation until we decide if we're gonna fix the job.

Which pretty much just means, to play the other tanks that are actually fun and forget DRK exists because they couldn't be bother to fix it this expansion.

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Get back to me when you found one.

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Originally Posted by GoatOfWar

Also, they consolidated the 123 into 1 button.

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That's not how it works.

They have to , if you want new buttons they gonna merge old button to do the same. God bless for gap closer do no dmg, high ping player will not die by server trash ticks.

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Originally Posted by GoatOfWar

Also, they consolidated the 123 into 1 button.

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Huh ?? Is this something they are really doing ?? :(
I really hope not.

Any consolidations they've done will be given the option to use or not.

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Originally Posted by Sunhwapark

Huh ?? Is this something they are really doing ?? :(
I really hope not.

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No they're not.
Core rotation is exempt from it. The consolidation option is for combo button skills like Gnashing Fang or the new Delirium combo.

So the rotation will still basically be 123 spam until its time to mash whatever button you put bloodspiller on.

I...actually quite like the updates we got, we've even gotten a few things I've asked for.

Delirium actually has a combo now instead of being bloodspiller vomit, and it's really damn cool at that. As much as I would like there to be more to it, this at least will make it feel better to use every minute.

Living Shadow actually does grant a new ability that both you and Fray use. It may not be at the same time, but DAMN does it look satisfying.

These changes don't really fix monotonous 1-2-3 downtime, but we still have yet to see specifics from the media tour. (I'm not really expecting it to be fixed, all things considered. given that they thought it was okay to give us 1-2-3 spam for two expansions in a row somehow. And it's looking like it's going for 3)

I'll miss plunge, don't get me wrong, but frankly I like the new gap closer more, because we actually use it specifically to be a gap closer. A movement tool. I don't like the "gap-closers" that are just used as rotational ogcd's.

Occasional reminder WAR gets to have both Onslaught (unsure if damage stays) and Primal Rend as dashes.

Plunge + Shadow Step do not have to be mutually exclusive, could've always made Plunge something more interesting while adding new dash.

But I am sure the creativity is limited to their favourite tank.