Viera and Hrothgar Megathread

Modern aesthetics at least! And the paid hairstyles. Im itching for november! First time ever looking forward to fall/winter lol

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Originally Posted by Tsiron

I assume they mean this concept art, specifically. They look taller, more conventionally "manly", broader shoulders and etc. in comparison to the ones we're getting
https://i.imgur.com/KOYXK46.jpeg

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I feel like elements of that particular design got merged into the final outcome for Au Ra, so they had to go in a different direction for Viera when they returned to the idea.

Yea I can definitely see it.

I was going to say I can see both the male Viera and the male Au Ra to an extent in that particular concept art.

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Originally Posted by LuciaMirain

Modern aesthetics at least! And the paid hairstyles. Im itching for november! First time ever looking forward to fall/winter lol

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I am counting the days until I can use my Yshtola hair again. Really hoping that’s one of the “few” they chose to port. If I get that, along with getting to go to Sharlayan finally, I’ll be a happy bunny.

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Originally Posted by Tsiron

I assume they mean this concept art, specifically. They look taller, more conventionally "manly", broader shoulders and etc. in comparison to the ones we're getting
https://i.imgur.com/KOYXK46.jpeg

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Hilariously, the way that is formatted makes the females taller in the lineup lol

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Originally Posted by Iscah

I feel like elements of that particular design got merged into the final outcome for Au Ra, so they had to go in a different direction for Viera when they returned to the idea.

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https://i.imgur.com/FXuE7CS.jpg

The m viera we're getting actually look pretty similar to the other concept art shown in the same artbook. In hindsight everyone hyperfocused on only 1 page when they showed us 2 :P

RIP weird chest hair..

With how crunchy textures in this game can be, it was probably for the best. rip chest fluff, we hardly knew ya ;_;7

Shadow the Hedgehog chest hair

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Originally Posted by Tsiron

RIP weird chest hair..

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It deserved to be put out of its misery. :/

But I thought people wanted male Viera to be manlier /s

man dat chest fur and dat beard would have been fire tho as options
https://i.imgur.com/AqcOUSQ.jpg

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Originally Posted by Fukuro

man dat chest fur and dat beard would have been fire tho as options
https://i.imgur.com/AqcOUSQ.jpg

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You probably would've ended up with a Hrothgar fur pattern instead of hair situation so, careful :p

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Originally Posted by Yencat

You probably would've ended up with a Hrothgar fur pattern instead of hair situation so, careful :p

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true... imagine the clipping if otherwise xD

I have a couple of veils in my retainer that Im saving for when I fantasia to au ra at times. But Im thinking now that we are getting some more hairstyles that I will stick with my viera. Do you guys think some of the headpieces will be adapted to viera?

Honestly it's hard to say. They had all of Shadowbringer to make headpieces that would work for viera and hortgar and they said niet to all but a small few items to be made available most of which where circlets, visors, or masks. They said they may not get older content but didn't think they would exclude them from new ones as well.

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Originally Posted by Iscah

I feel like elements of that particular design got merged into the final outcome for Au Ra, so they had to go in a different direction for Viera when they returned to the idea.

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Just about every Viera in those pictures have tails. Where is my tail?

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Originally Posted by NessaWyvern

Just about every Viera in those pictures have tails. Where is my tail?

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I keep switching between Miqo'te and Hyur because the tail inevitably gets on my nerves, what with all the clipping limiting my glamour options. Why do you want a tail?

As an Au Ra player the tail is best* part ;)

*they could easily be double their current size and still wouldn't clip that badly...

I hope female hrothgars look more like this and not some half ass buff miqote.
https://twitter.com/kkron_m/status/1...746518025?s=19

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Originally Posted by NessaWyvern

Just about every Viera in those pictures have tails. Where is my tail?

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Gone as it should be, Viera never had a tail.

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Originally Posted by AvenoMatt

Honestly it's hard to say. They had all of Shadowbringer to make headpieces that would work for viera and hortgar and they said niet to all but a small few items to be made available most of which where circlets, visors, or masks. They said they may not get older content but didn't think they would exclude them from new ones as well.

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I honestly just want some bandanas and veils. Also some tiaras need to be adjusted for both races. They sit really far out on the head

I'm so glad we didn't get the chest fur.

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Originally Posted by Senn

I'm so glad we didn't get the chest fur.

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Elaborate because we kinda do have chest fur o-O

Daily reminder that hrothgars having to pay $10 to change hairstyles is an absolute trash decision.

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Originally Posted by Akimori

Elaborate because we kinda do have chest fur o-O

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I think Senn means the Male Viera chest fur patch in some of their concept arts. Some people wanted it, some didn't. And it seems SE decided against it.

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Originally Posted by Rawr18

Daily reminder that hrothgars having to pay $10 to change hairstyles is an absolute trash decision.

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They tried to take the lazy way out and now look where that's landed them.

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Originally Posted by WhiteArchmage

I think Senn means the Male Viera chest fur patch in some of their concept arts. Some people wanted it, some didn't. And it seems SE decided against it.

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Oh, I didn't even see the M. viera concept art. I saw the old one where they wanted M viera to look like actual beastial rabbits (which would have been kick ass!) similar to Hrothgar, but they decided not to do that one (superior concept for M. viera. Dont @ me)

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Originally Posted by Senn

I'm so glad we didn't get the chest fur.

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If they were more "Masculine" I think the Chest Hair would be pretty sexy.
But since they have a more Youthful look, yeah the Chest Hair would be abit...awkward...weird? Whatever, I agree its good they didnt get it.

Bumping because we were on page 17, we should never be that far from anyone's thoughts ^_^

Also, would it be fair to say Viera and Hrothgar should at least be given all the artifact headgears from previous and going forward...I feel odd not having my feathered red mage hats.

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Originally Posted by PureEclipse

Bumping because we were on page 17, we should never be that far from anyone's thoughts ^_^

Also, would it be fair to say Viera and Hrothgar should at least be given all the artifact headgears from previous and going forward...I feel odd not having my feathered red mage hats.

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Eh the threads have served their overall purpose.
Viera are 100% in the game now (well once Endwalker drops)
And Hrothgar Females are "Announced" to be in development so overall the main point is done.

And who knows with headgear. The Reaper Hat fits a Hrothgar, so it could be a vague hint that more head cold be getting worked on.

in case anybody missed it:

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"For Viera in 6.0, and Hrothgar in 6.1, you'll be allowed to switch hairstyle! The Hrothgar face pattern system will be also be adjusted!"

"Through great effort, we’re making changes to the current Hrothgar system, and while I can’t say the variety will increase, it won’t be limited to 'one face pattern, one hairstyle'; instead, we’re working on having one face pattern able to support multiple hairstyles."

"Additional new hairstyles for Viera are in the next round of adjustments, and will be available from the launch time of 6.0. Hrothgar will take more time, so they’ll be available from 6.1."

"In any case, because the character team is graciously continuing to work on these two races for us, and because they’re also preparing for the increases in gear and hairstyles, please wait a little longer."

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i think they are doing their best! i‘m really thankful for their effort!!
translation from twitter user @GraffXIV

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Originally Posted by Fukuro

in case anybody missed it:

i think they are doing their best! i‘m really thankful for their effort!!
translation from twitter user @GraffXIV

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Thanks for the update!! Awesome to know!!

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Originally Posted by Fukuro

in case anybody missed it:

i think they are doing their best! i‘m really thankful for their effort!!
translation from twitter user @GraffXIV

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It's about time! I'm glad they are finally looking into these issues. Looking forward to further updates for the limited races, for sure.

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Originally Posted by Fukuro

in case anybody missed it:

i think they are doing their best! i‘m really thankful for their effort!!
translation from twitter user @GraffXIV

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It's much appreciated, though I can't help but say "took you guys long enough!" lol

This really shouldn't have been an issue from the beginning, but it is what it is. I'm glad they are finally addressing the issues.

sweet, I swapped to midlander now tho

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Originally Posted by Vahlnir

It's much appreciated, though I can't help but say "took you guys long enough!" lol

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I'll be interested to see what the fix looks like. From how the current system appears to work, it seems like they'd have to either sacrifice something (like fur patterns being independent of hairstyle) or create a whole new category in the character template, which could mean improvements for other races as well – say, body tattoos as a new category with Hrothgar fur patterns using that system instead of currently using the hairstyle slot. But that seems less likely and I wouldn't get my hopes up on it.

If they're wedging it into the current template, the least-sacrificial approach might be that the hairstyle menu is a weird thing with five copies of each hairstyle, each with a different fur pattern tied to it.

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Originally Posted by Fukuro

in case anybody missed it:

For Viera in 6.0, and Hrothgar in 6.1, you'll be allowed to switch hairstyle! The Hrothgar face pattern system will be also be adjusted!"

"Through great effort, we’re making changes to the current Hrothgar system, and while I can’t say the variety will increase, it won’t be limited to 'one face pattern, one hairstyle'; instead, we’re working on having one face pattern able to support multiple hairstyles."

"Additional new hairstyles for Viera are in the next round of adjustments, and will be available from the launch time of 6.0. Hrothgar will take more time, so they’ll be available from 6.1."

"In any case, because the character team is graciously continuing to work on these two races for us, and because they’re also preparing for the increases in gear and hairstyles, please wait a little longer."

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Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso

The devs know there are limited options as well....this has already been addressed, and they said they will be making new and Unique styles for the 2 races. And Im sure, with more hair options in the works, so is a solution to change hair without RL money.
(( https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...=1#post5169737 ))

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Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso

Im sure they will my man. Once they make more options, I know they will also work on giving the Hrothgar (and viera I guess) ways to get Haircuts/Change their Hair/Manes without spending $10 IRL.
(( https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...=1#post5144943 ))

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2 years later...aged like Fine Wine <3

well it was bound to get fixed was a matter of when
and to say "about time" isn't really fair considering how rough it was post ShB for dev team and it was not just talking about covid

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Originally Posted by Iscah

I'll be interested to see what the fix looks like. From how the current system appears to work, it seems like they'd have to either sacrifice something (like fur patterns being independent of hairstyle) or create a whole new category in the character template, which could mean improvements for other races as well – say, body tattoos as a new category with Hrothgar fur patterns using that system instead of currently using the hairstyle slot. But that seems less likely and I wouldn't get my hopes up on it.

If they're wedging it into the current template, the least-sacrificial approach might be that the hairstyle menu is a weird thing with five copies of each hairstyle, each with a different fur pattern tied to it.

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Or, worst case scenario, they're opening up all Hrothgar hairstyles regardless of face in character creation but you'll still need a Fantasia after that.

But I don't know if I'd count that as "through great effort", so hopefully it's not just that.